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Grow_Beyond t1_jdm6zla wrote

Can't they just ask the Chess community for tips? They went through this already.

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yh5203 OP t1_jdkwlob wrote

Submission Statement:

A cheating scandal erupted in Asian board game of Go in December, raising questions on regulating AI in the field of sport. Moreover, the story of how AI had completely changed the Go world in the past 7 years is a preview of the disruption that AI like GPT will bring on a global scale.

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FuturologyBot t1_jdkzvm6 wrote

The following submission statement was provided by /u/yh5203:

Submission Statement:

A cheating scandal erupted in Asian board game of Go in December, raising questions on regulating AI in the field of sport. Moreover, the story of how AI had completely changed the Go world in the past 7 years is a preview of the disruption that AI like GPT will bring on a global scale.

Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1218yko/how_ai_turned_the_ancient_sport_of_go_upside_down/jdkwlob/

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Opposite-Quarter906 t1_jdliivt wrote

It is a two-player intellectual game, not a game between artificial intelligence and humans

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whatistheformat t1_jdlx54p wrote

Well it can be either just like any game. the question is whether these tournaments are going to just pretend AI isn't a factor or have some kind of checks in place to ensure the humans aren't getting an AI assist. In lieu of physical presence- two in-person players could be searched and made to wear a special tournament uniform, or something- it could be impossible to prevent.

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Inevitable_Syrup777 t1_jdm9zbz wrote

Dude, in person tournaments are the only thing that anyone should take seriously. I would never bet money on a virtual anything.

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MuggleWine t1_jdla063 wrote

I can beat ai go programs up to the 2dan level and I'm only 11kyu. I think the ai has a long way to go.. Go has an infinite number of possible moves

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Skreame t1_jdldmxw wrote

AlphaGo will already be a decade old in a couple of years where it originally beat Lee Sedol. AlphaGo Zero smashed it’s predecessor 100 - 0 games. AlphaZero is considered the world’s top player. How does judging AI on simple training modules really give any perspective here?

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Acrolith t1_jdmuwj2 wrote

lol, sounds like the go programs are designed to massage your ego a bit

(Humans have been hopelessly left behind by Go AI for at least 5 years now, not even the top pros have any chance at all against go-playing computers)

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Alpha3031 t1_jdqs8d2 wrote

A program playing at the "2 dan" level is essentially crippled and would have exploitable flaws that are magnified to the point that much weaker players with nothing better to do can find them. This is why advice is pretty much the same as chess, playing engines limited to human level play is essentially useless for improving arfter a point. Basically, the ego massaging is usually entirely unintentional on the engine creator's parts, but limiting an engine to a consistent human difficulty is hard.

The bragging is still dumb though.

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