Submitted by TheRappingSquid t3_122bq27 in Futurology
HackDice t1_jdqa49m wrote
Reply to comment by BeeEven238 in Printed organs becoming more useful than bio ones by TheRappingSquid
if replacing headlights meant having to open up someones chest and rip open their rib cage, they'd probably make them a bit more durable.
fitm3 t1_jdqfqq2 wrote
Naw they’d bake in an easy access port to the body and implement planned obsolescence to ensure regular expensive surgical maintenance and care to milk insurance.
Edit spelling easy
Lunchboxninja1 t1_jdqgnsl wrote
Fuck youre right. I hate capitalism
psychotobe t1_jdqjy23 wrote
There's a point where a product becomes too inconvenient to buy, and it stops selling. People don't buy with no mind. That's what doomers who believe in that npc nonsense think. People are lazy about research not actively suicidal in their apathy.
If you sell an organ that fails every time and needs to be replaced. That organ will not be bought. It's to expensive to keep getting it and someone will sell a cheaper one to undercut competition. Apple gets away with it cause their a status symbol. No one can show off their custom heart to wow the common folk. It works less well if it's not packed in properly
edutained t1_jds3ua0 wrote
They can if a patent is held and they kill all the competition in development or court. It's already being done with tons of pharma.
dickinsauce t1_jdu39ja wrote
Ugh capitalism. I’m going to HATE when they charge money to save my life and drastically improve my everyday life. This system is the worst
Gubekochi t1_jduc9bw wrote
Healthcare is a right, not a product. As such it is free at the point of service in most of the civilised world.
dickinsauce t1_jdywirv wrote
No it’s literally not. You can believe and hope it is all you want, but unfortunately it is not. And just because it is paid for by governments in other countries does not mean that it is a “right” there either.
The American system is hugely broken and needs an overhaul. But to believe because you are born you are entitled to other humans caring for/mending you is asinine.
Gubekochi t1_jdzrbiq wrote
First: all rights are made up. Second some country have it in there constitution that healthcare is one of the right enjoyed by their citizens. So that's that. You being ignorant about them doesn't change the facts and reality of how people live. You may not like it but this is what peak human rights look like.
dickinsauce t1_je31w2j wrote
Lmao, did you intentionally use the the meme format of “you may not like it but this is what peak ____ looks like?” Cause If yes, very funny. If not, then you may have the brain worms.
Please find me a constitution with healthcare as a “right”. I just looked and couldn’t find one. I’m sure you will provide me a list of countries that provide free healthcare, which again does not mean it’s a right.
Gubekochi t1_je3gbaz wrote
I don't see how your ignorance/google ineptitude really has anything to do with me... and why I should be given homework to compensate for your apparent lazyness... so I'll give you the first result on my google research:
That would be S. Korea.
Also, (bonus down the google research) the EU Charter of Fundamental rights has it so Citizens of any European country that recognize that Charter as valid would have a right to health care even if their country doesn't specify it in it's own constitution. So there's that too.
Lastly, it was an intentional use of the meme, but IF I had brain worms, I could get my head checked for free since I don't live in a third world country.
dickinsauce t1_je8hulc wrote
A+ on your homework and your sense of humor than. On time too!
Good to know thanks. You’re right then.
My point, which I think intersects with your other comment is that a right is something inherent. In my opinion a right is something you “have” from the moment you’re birthed. The list of those rights is extremely small.
Governments can give you other rights like we have in the US. My bet was that while they’ve nationalized healthcare in many countries, they wouldn’t list it as a right. Because in my mind, that means no refusal of service no matter the procedure/ailment. As mentioned I was wrong.
But I stick to my point that healthcare is a product and the only nuance is who is paying.
Boiling it down if we go into the apocalypse tonight and a baby is born in the woods of South Korea tomorrow, no one is going to stop everything theyre doing for themselves to survive in order to go to tend to the baby. But the babies right to pursue happiness, live freely, and speak whatever it wants to speak (once able) still will be there.
That’s how I view a right
Gubekochi t1_jecbelj wrote
>But I stick to my point that healthcare is a product and the only nuance is who is paying.
We also have a right to a certain amount of security. That's why countries have armies and police forces. Those (ideally/theoretically) exist for defence and to maintain orders so citizens can pursue happiness and not get raided by hordes of barbarians or assaulted or what have you. That's what government are supposed to exist for. As a society we decide that something is important for everyone, we put our money in a big pool and we use the pool to ensure that the underlying right is secured.
It works for the army and the police in the US, it also works for healthcare elsewhere.
Of course it's not free and someone pays for it. Same as roads and fire stations. You don't pay when you need them, they're paid for from taxes because they help society function (and healthy citizenry can be argued to also do that).
dickinsauce t1_je320ip wrote
Also, “rights are made up”. K so saying healthcare is a right is a made up meaningless statement? Just confusing
Gubekochi t1_je3f1dc wrote
Justice is made up. Good and evil is made up. Those are all concepts that mean different things to different people from different time and culture. It means what it means.
When I say something is a right, it is meant as "in a proper society, it should be treated with the same importance we give to other rights".
Nothing has inherent meaning. Meaning is something we construct to not go insane from a meaningless universe because our brain has evolved to recognize patterns as a way to improve our chances of survival and has gotten too good at it for our own comfort.
WimbleWimble t1_jdqii0h wrote
iKidney ...takes until version 6.5 before it produces urine, but other offbrand kidneys have had the feature since day 1.
Apple claims it invented round blood cells.
Top_Requirement_1341 t1_jdqm1io wrote
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(Meanwhile, the beeping from iKidney 22 turns from "panicked" to "frenzied".)
WimbleWimble t1_jdqsrar wrote
we've slowed down your iKidney to preserve its life.
it will now take 2hrs to empty your bladder.
HackDice t1_jdql9ml wrote
why bother with PO, when they can just charge you a monthly subscription instead. PO is becoming out-dated in leiu of just, hardware that requires software to run. Your organs will be on monthly subscription. Don't meet your payments? We'll find a way to make you make your payments. Otherwise, well, nobody ever seems to care when landlords evict families onto the street, why would they care when we evict your organs from your body?
Gubekochi t1_jducdux wrote
Repoman was a documentary.
Carbon140 t1_jdqfyaj wrote
Nah, the movie repo men seems like a more accurate depiction of how synthetic organs would play out.
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