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acutelychronicpanic t1_jd7ga3k wrote

This is an unpopular opinion with all of the environmental concerns we have at the moment (which are both legitimate and serious), but with advances in technology, Earth can hold a ludicrous number of people comfortably.

If AGI was here, genetic engineering of crops will be supercharged, fusion will be fast-tracked, and truly intelligent systems will be ubiquitous.

A Thanos-inspired solution would do far more harm than the overpopulation it is supposedly addressing.

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Cmyers1980 t1_jd7gcan wrote

This is a false dichotomy and blatantly wrong. We can help humanity thrive without mass murder or depopulation by changing the dominant system to one that serves humanity rather than a wealthy few and makes efficient use of resources. Given the massive waste and unequal distribution under our capitalist status quo we have more than enough resources to give every person a basically good life while still protecting the environment. Read Less is More by Jason Hickel for a comprehensive summary.

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jellicenthero t1_jd7gp6z wrote

The problem isn't numbers. It's location. Need to move humans away from fertile places like rainforests.

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Trout_Shark t1_jd7gt7g wrote

I'm no rocketsurgeon, but asking an AI to remove 75% of humanity seems like a bad idea. What if it thinks that means removing 75% of each of us. We might just end up as a bunch of heads in jars. Futurama style. I guess that would sort of be a version of the singularity.

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Marshall_Lawson t1_jd7hcov wrote

Keep this fascist bs in the burning dumpster where it belongs. The problem is not overpopulation, it's efficiently using and allocating the resources available, instead of allowing a privileged few to hoard and waste them, and manipulate essential resources like food, water, and housing, as commodities.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_jd7it3b wrote

That's like giving a drug addict more money. There is never gonna be "enough" for his desires can never be fulfilled.

Letting the human population breed in ever growing numbers works at cross porpose for every reasonable long term planing provide a stable enviroment.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_jd7jlwf wrote

Why would they do that? They want a vacation home over there. And a resort. A trail for Instagram photos. A safari park or whatever.

Human desires are endless. Making more people rich just creates more desires. Scaled up to 8 billion, everybody has a vacation home in the rain forrest.

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Gubekochi t1_jd7kl6x wrote

Plus there is no telling how enticing an archology could be built with super intelligence. You could pack entire city's worth of people in on skyscrapper that somehow looks good, has parks and ressources in and has roomier quarters than our current appartments and houses.

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Trout_Shark t1_jd7krda wrote

I guess the AI genocidial maniac decided to delete and run.

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acutelychronicpanic t1_jd7o0et wrote

I agree entirely with what you are saying. I just think that most people talking about this greatly underestimate our available resources as technology improves.

Say we get fusion.

What does carrying capacity and farmland acreage even mean when you can create tons of starch and protein in bioreactors for pennies a pound? With the inputs being things like air, water, energy, and abundant minerals?

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