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WalterWoodiaz t1_jbkb8ze wrote

Reply to comment by Murein in What countries/regions currently have *good* projected futures? by Murein

The legalizing child labor and banning contraception parts I need proof of. The US still has a shit ton of influence globally with an insane economy to match

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Murein OP t1_jbkc73l wrote

*"In Iowa, Republican legislators introduced a bill in January to expand the types of work 14- and 15-year-olds would be permitted to do as part of approved training programs, extend allowable work hours, and exempt employers from liability if these young workers are sickened, injured or killed on the job."*

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/11/us-child-labor-laws-violations

*"(22) As of 2022, at least 4 States tried to ban access to some or all contraceptives by restricting access to public funding for these products and services. Furthermore, Arkansas, Mississippi, Missouri, and Texas have infringed on people’s ability to access their contraceptive care by violating the free choice of provider requirement under the Medicaid program."*

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8373/text

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These are news I stumbled upon without even really looking. And I could find the sources for you in less than 10s of googling.

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WalterWoodiaz t1_jbkce5s wrote

Thank you for the sources. Those are bills introduced, those aren’t policy.

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Murein OP t1_jbkcu08 wrote

What are your thoughts on the mere fact that these things *are* being introduced? And where do you see the other social policy issues I mentioned going?

I'm not trying to be combative here, I am genuinely wishing to hear more optimistic perspectives than my own.

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WalterWoodiaz t1_jbkczm9 wrote

I think a better way to look at it is to see how many people vote and support it.

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Murein OP t1_jbkdkoa wrote

Sure - but Roe vs Wade got overturned despite overwhelming nationwide support for abortion rights. Heck, banning abortion wasn't even an issue in elections on the federal or state level.

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Jealous-Gate6014 t1_jbmq696 wrote

I could find just as many crazy and insane bills that were introduced by liberal state governments. This is a weak attempt to paint conservatives with a broad brush. It doesn’t take much to have a bill introduced just to have it swiftly killed in committee.

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Jealous-Gate6014 t1_jbmqnkh wrote

Abortion wasn’t banned. It was returned to the state level where it should have been along. I love how you guys say “oh abortion was abolished”, no, this wasn’t even a ruling at all about abortion itself, it was a ruling on federal vs state rights. I’m not even a pro life guy, but if we are going to discuss it, let’s be honest about the facts

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WalterWoodiaz t1_jbkdoyr wrote

Abortion is a different topic, stop moving the goalposts

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Murein OP t1_jbkdu3n wrote

Does the topic even matter when we're discussing how public opinion can be blatantly overrun?

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WalterWoodiaz t1_jbkdzss wrote

You brought up something specific, abortion pushback has been massive, but I am not here to talk about that.

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Murein OP t1_jbke3lh wrote

Yeah and see how much that pushback has helped?

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WalterWoodiaz t1_jbke9cf wrote

I believe in Kansas they voted on it and kept it, local action is important

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Murein OP t1_jbkedp8 wrote

I'm gonna need a source on that being a grassroots win

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WalterWoodiaz t1_jbkeqms wrote

Grassroots? It was a popular vote. US politics is very dependent on the state so painting the US as going to shit is oversimplifying an incredibly complex country

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Ginger_Boi000 t1_jbms3e8 wrote

Iowa Pop - 3.1 mil

USA pop - 331 pop.

Plz do math next time. Who gives a FLYING FUCK about Iowa???

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