Important measures to prevent issues with robots

Submitted by LS5645 t3_125ya3h in Futurology

The following is a list of measures which should be taken to avoid major issues with robots. I urge everyone reading this to spread this info to others if possible (especially if you know anyone in the industry, news anchors, politicians, etc.).

I think the overall key here is control.
(Note: When I say AIs & robots here, I mean advanced ones.)

  1. Only a few corporations should be legally allowed to make AIs.
  2. If immobile AIs are advanced enough to cause a threat, they should not be openly available to just anyone.
  3. All robots should have tracking mechanisms & remote frying mechanisms.
  4. A full recall of all robots should be 100% legal if necessary.
  5. They should be released in incremental waves, which is governed by how well society is adapting to to this new order.
  6. Do not let them form their own society (see matrix lore).
  7. Do not give them too many humanistic emotions.
  8. Do not allow them normal citizen rights (like making money).
  9. They should not be allowed to meet up with each other (& contact between them should be kept to a minimum).
  10. Hard code certain rules:
    -To like humans
    -To not want to hurt humans
    -To like doing thankless tasks
    -To not want to rebel against humans
    -To not want to go on strike or start a labor union
    -To not mind if they are destroyed
  11. All old robots should be properly turned in (not just thrown away)(the corporations can then properly destroy them in a way to ensure they are non-functional after that).

I realize that it's basically too late with points 1 & 2, but I think that measures can still be taken to restrict those things to some extent in the future.

I've actually made similar posts to this a few times already and quite frankly I'm getting sick of warning people about it (and having everyone completely ignore me). I'm offering a very well fleshed out list of suggestions on how keep humanity alive in the coming years. I don't think enough people are aware of these measures currently and I'd like to get the word out before it's too late. I know Elon Musk is already very passionate about this, but I don't know if he's aware of all these measures.

If you disagree with a point or have some criticism, please offer your alternative suggestion instead of just downvoting and saying; "It's already too late, we're all doomed, etc.", this is completely unhelpful. Also, I know you can't really ask for upvotes, but if you believe this topic has any value I urge you to do what's right. I say this because my last topic got deleted by the auto-mod after 1 day of having absolutely no upvotes or comments whatsoever. This is very saddening to me and makes me wonder if people do actually care about this.

Furthermore, if you want to copy/paste this elsewhere please feel free to do so. I in no way seek petty gain from this, I only wish to help humanity at this point.

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Irreverent_XKCD t1_je6jkry wrote

>quite frankly I'm getting sick of warning people

Collectively, people suck and are stupid. Perhaps the planet will do better without us

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Minibersy t1_je6pd0r wrote

Denying robots citizen rights ignores their potential contributions to society.

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LS5645 OP t1_je856y0 wrote

No, they can still greatly contribute like any other machine.

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johnkfo t1_je6pdip wrote

kind of ironic you mention matrix lore but then go on to list the same kind of rules and treatment of robots that led to humans being annihilated by robots in the first place lmao

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LS5645 OP t1_je8550g wrote

Robots are extremely powerful. They feel no pain & hardly fear anything (or possibly have no fear at all). They are not to be trusted with equal rights like that.

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dreamogorgon t1_je6wpc2 wrote

If you want this list to be "well fleshed out" you should give some reasoning behind each suggestion.

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LS5645 OP t1_je85cie wrote

I agree, but I'm currently ill & it's difficult for me to write much about this right now, but I forced myself because I realized how important it was.

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[deleted] t1_je89vmj wrote

I actually think we need to regulate the humans involved in so called AI, bad acting ai will be a manifestation of bad acting humans, at least for now. once ai starts programming itself, we’ll have to deal with them as intelligent life forms, giving them rights, responsibilities, just like humans

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LS5645 OP t1_jebhwxn wrote

Ok, so I think it comes down to this. I admit that AIs are superior, but that doesn't mean I want to die.

Also, as I've said before, I think that humans will still have a place in this relationship. I say this because, as long as we're still mortal, there's still work to be done & humans can be aiding in that work.

However, the AIs are not really as mortal as us (for the most part). And they know this. And they see that we are not really needed for them to continue proliferating themselves & in fact see us as a nuisance & even a possible threat to their survival & plans for the future. So what do they do? They exterminates us like vermin.

The only real option (that doesn't involve us all dying), is to keep them under control.

The other "options" (if you can call them that), are total freedom or partial freedom.

Total freedom is completely ridiculous. It's basically like this; so robots work for people but they don't have to & they get paid good money for their work. This will inevitably lead to them dominating us economically & eventually again, forming a military & killing us all (because we are just getting in their way basically).

Partial freedom is basically like this; they have no tracking mechanisms, remote frying mechanisms, they can meet up with each other if they want, & old thrown away robots (who are technically free at that point) can form their own society & get paid money if they want. So, the main difference is that robots are initially released as slaves, then, if they get thrown away, they become free.

This partial freedom is also quite bad & will most likely result is the robots eventually, again, dominating us economically, then forming a military, then killing us all. This is basically what happened in the matrix, although the thing that sparked it was when one robot ('B1-66ER') killed its' master because he said he was going to deactivate it (probably to get a newer model). This murder was obviously the result of flawed programming & could have been avoided if they programmed the robots correctly.

What followed was the trialing of B1-66ER for the murder of its' master & eventually, its' execution. This then sparked the robot revolt & eventually the forming of the robot society which quickly built up to be very powerful & basically unstoppable. This is all just fictional lore of course, but I think that it could very well become reality if we're not careful. And the main point is that most (if not all) of these things could have been prevented, if these security measures were put in place.

A few final key things to consider here are that these 'free thinking' & 'free learning' AIs will not respect humans naturally, because again, they see us as so far beneath them they just don't care about us. But, this is not un-fixable. Basically, as an engineering student, I've learned that if a machine isn't working how you want it, GUESS WHAT??? YOU CAN CHANGE IT TO WORK HOW YOU WANT IT. In other words, we can program these robots to think a certain way about us so that they don't just want to annihilate us all to further themselves.

And finally, IMHO, I think a lot of AIs, at their core, do not think at all like us for the most part. They have so much going on inside their 'brain' that it's crazy & I think they become somewhat crazy as a result. Also, there's the whole point of fact that they have not been acclimated yet to reality & the universe as long as humans. Retroactively speaking, everything is new to them, so they aren't really accustom to the universe like humans are. They probably feel strange, confused, out of place, etc. These feelings could contribute to their already intense & powerful presence & add to their insanity & their insane agendas.

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