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Isilmine t1_jddcxzd wrote

The problem I see with these Musk arguments on Reddit or elsewhere is that people involved choose to be very categorical. Truth, of course, is somewhere in between.

Is he a super genius visionary his disciples want us to think? No. But is he an absolute scum of the earth the other side insists? No, too.

He has his shortcomings, as we all do. But saying he’s the worst or being outraged by his actions is overreaction.

Even if he is a multimillionaires son, that’s usually not enough to succeed in life and become a billionaire he is. Or else there would be hell of a lot more billionaires in the world.

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Zergzapper t1_jddo786 wrote

Well he kinda is scum of the earth, his sexual scandals show hes willing to use power to abuse other, his reaction when he didnt get to use his toys to save the kid trapped in cave was to call their ultimate rescuer a pedophile. He fired and made fun of someones disability on his biggest stage. He IS a shitty person period

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6_oh_n8 t1_jddsbik wrote

Being a multimillionaire’s son is enough to succeed in life unfortunately. The rich are the scum of the earth

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Isilmine t1_jdmrovp wrote

Well, being richness is relative. If rich are the scum of the earth, most Americans and Western Europeans can be safely called scum of the earth by Russians and Central Asians.

And by succeeding I mean multiplying inherited wealth. Turning millions into billions. Not as common as people think.

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ValyrianJedi t1_jde3bvt wrote

If your dad's money was the only reason for your success then you wouldn't have 3,000x more money than your dad

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Ishpersonguy t1_jde510v wrote

Spoken like someone who supports a system of which they have zero idea (and zero interest in learning anyway) how it actually functions.

You would have to be the biggest, most incompetent fucking buffoon to fail at that point, my guy.

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ValyrianJedi t1_jde6u3z wrote

I have bachelors degrees in econ and business, a masters in, finance and a decade long career in finance, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say I understand how the system functions a hell of a lot better than you do.

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orrk256 t1_jdeeho9 wrote

let me guess, you follow the Chicago school or it's derivations, because even the Kaynsians are adopting more and more "communist" ideas, because shocker, we have 50+ years to see this shit don't work as the neoliberal economists have said it would.

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ValyrianJedi t1_jdei0rs wrote

Right. We have the highest GDP in the world, the 5th highest median income in the world (with all the countries avove us being a fraction of a fraction our size), the highest median disposable income in the world, are the business capital of the world, the finance capital of the world, and the tech capital of the world have half of the best schools in the world, have have half of the best hospitals in the world, but we totally haven't been doing good economically for the last 50+ years.

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orrk256 t1_jdeqjtj wrote

And yet you have people dead because they froze to death, children who would go hungry if not for free school lunches, a poverty rate of over 30%, people living in cars while working. The world's largest prison population.

And to clear up some misunderstandings you seem to have, America generally ends up somewhere in the middle of global education standards, American Hospitals have worse outcomes compared to almost every other first world country, be it child death, or op/post-op complication, let alone the massive amount of people who can't afford basic medical attention.

It's nice to see you list off the great achievements of the wealthy, but that doesn't affect you, now does it?

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ValyrianJedi t1_jder8io wrote

Oof... Don't know if you just get too much of your info from reddit comments or are living in some fantasy world, but there isn't any point trying to argue with someone who is that separated from reality so think that doozy is where I stop responding to you.

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justingod99 t1_jdetic4 wrote

Good idea, his main Reddit community is an Antifa community.

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justingod99 t1_jdeni39 wrote

Also biggest provider of worldwide aid and biggest military. These morons have no idea. (and I love the “but Finland” argument lol)

Since everyone on Reddit hates America and refutes any evidence provided, maybe they could take a look at how Japan was doing before and after the US completely rebuilt them based ENTIRELY on our democracy. (Of note: We rebuilt them right after they surprised attacked us, murdering 2,400).

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Inflation-adjusted-per-capita-GDP-in-Japan-1870-2015-Data-between-1870-and-1989-are_fig1_317063273

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Ishpersonguy t1_jdjc48q wrote

And lord knows that has always meant so much for actual qualifications. I wonder what degrees the congressman asking if TikTok "connects to the home wifi network" have?

I don't give a shit what degrees you have. You have a vested interest in benefiting from a system and zero interest in the people suffering from it. That makes you nobody.

Besides, we've all seen business majors, buddy. Nobody's impressed. Well, except y'all, evidently.

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justingod99 t1_jddrf31 wrote

No one gets as successful as he is without some merit. It’s just a circle jerk of hate for him here. Just like anything republican or religious. I prefer balance, but people here just want a sounding board and absolutely go batshit crazy when someone disagrees or offers a different opinion. I got banned from TwoXChromosomes for disagreeing with a poster who said “every” man has a rape fantasy. 🤷🏻

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justingod99 t1_jde2vor wrote

Case in point. Downvoted for preferring a balanced, nonpartisan analysis.

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