Classy fella

Probably because solar power is energy return over 20-25 years, while oil wells front load their energy return giving ~50% in the first year of operation.

So you are correct they aren't really comparable...which is a real problem for energy security and the viability of solar in EROI terms.

Exactly, the car industry is pulling the wool over all of our eyes, they don’t want public transportation to scale up

Yeah, that is a 100 yr problem. Our generation likely wont see the Us having transit like Switzerland and japan have now. EVs will be fixed over the next 20 years. Eventually we will have fusion and mass transit, hopefully

Public transportation doesn’t magically solve the problem. I live in the downtown of a midsized city, and the nearest grocery store is 5 miles away. Nearest hardware store 4 miles. In fact most of the business I frequent are between 4 and 10 miles away. I’m not walking to the bus stop, waiting for the bus, going 5 miles, turning a 10 minute drive into a 25 minute ride, getting several bags of groceries, and then waiting outside in the snow for the next 20 minutes for the next bus to come.

Now, I’ve lived in Chicago without a car, so I’m not against the idea in principle. But all the businesses I needed on a daily basis were available within a 15 minute walk from where I lived, and an EL stop was 10 minutes away. This is all possible because the population density is high enough to support businesses clustered in walkable neighborhoods.

In most of middle America, the population density is typically not high enough in an area to support these types of walkable communities. So everything is spread out, designed for communities with POVs.

It would take a massive redesign and rebuilding of communities for the public transportation thing to be viable.

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I don't wanna rely on public transportation. I wanna get in my car, blast my music, do and go where I want at my own liesure or urgency, not worry about schedules, other people and other public trans bullshit. I don't currently have a car, and I still refuse to get on a bus. I hop on my bike, crank up the headphones, or BT speaker, and do all that other stuff. I don't like living on a bike either, but it's still better than some bus, or tram. But yeah, I'm all for better public trans if more people use it, and it doesn't inconvenience the rest of us, who don't use it.

We lack the population density that other countries have. For general scale, Germany is a bit bigger (land size) than the state of Georgia. Georgia has around 11 million people. Germany has 85 million. It’s extremely difficult to build cost effective infrastructure that doesn’t bankrupt a municipality because not enough people use it to cover the costs.

It’s far easier to convert people to purchasing EVs or some alternative fuel vehicle.

And what about my weekend car?

I'd like to see a strong public transit backbone with some cars thrown in that are owned by the government that are electric self-driving that you can use using a public credit system wherein you get free uses up to a point and then have to pay and then hard locked.

I would like to point out that in addition to reducing air pollution due to fuel burning EVs also reduce pollution due to braking because they can use regen to recapture energy rather than wasting it with friction brakes.

We do it all for the resources, there's a huge bounty waiting between Mars Jupiter ⛏️

That's a whole lotta h3 man, lol

I think I figured out the confusion - ICE can mean “internal conversion efficiency” in the context of a solar cell (and in fact 33% is a good number for 2-junction solar conversion efficiency).

But the comment above was about “internal combustion engine” (also abbreviated ICE).

Hence your EV comparison makes sense.

Apologies for the misunderstanding!