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sunsparkda t1_ira6713 wrote

Reply to comment by shanoshamanizum in Moneyless economy simulator by shanoshamanizum

Money exists because it is useful - far more useful than your system with it's massive overhead and requirement for a draconian police state to prevent people from engaging in economic activity outside of approved channels.

Using regulation to deal with the downsides of money will be orders of magnitude less harmful that what would be required to implement your insane little thought experiment.

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SentientHotdogWater t1_irfgjx0 wrote

>and requirement for a draconian police state

I looked really hard through the link and wasn't able to find any mention of a "draconian police state". Would you mind copy/pasting the sections that discuss this?

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sunsparkda t1_irfkxy0 wrote

It's an unstated implication of what he describes, even if the OP doesn't understand that to be the case.

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SentientHotdogWater t1_irfomun wrote

How is that an unstated implication? Can you explain this further?

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sunsparkda t1_irfp4wz wrote

If you can't see how requiring all commerce to go through the system that's described without massive surveillance and punishments for people who decide to act outside it to prevent it from collapsing under it's own weight and massive inefficenencies, I'm not sure what to tell you.

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SentientHotdogWater t1_irfq0sa wrote

It's a voluntary system, it should go without saying that all production and consumption isn't forced to do anything.

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sunsparkda t1_irfqpoa wrote

Then most people will choose not to use it since money is more efficient and has vastly less overhead.

Either you force people into this system, or it will not destroy money which is the stated goal.

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SentientHotdogWater t1_irfua5s wrote

Money is laughably inefficient as a means of coordinating the distribution of labor, goods, and services.

Why would people voluntarily choose to re-enter a system where they have to work more to get less?

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berd021 t1_irmnfrs wrote

No, you can just get anything. The only problem is that your score (production/consumption) goes down but that doesn't really matter because it doesn't do anything. It relies on the good will of people to get a higher score. Which will never work imo.

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