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[deleted] t1_irigo3o wrote

Reply to comment by MoobooMagoo in Space adverts are now economically viable but potentially dangerous by Soupjoe5

Hacking anything in space after it’s launched is nearly impossible. They aren’t connected to the internet on earth, meaning it’s nearly impossible unless you have physical access.

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MoobooMagoo t1_irij1kc wrote

So you think they're going to launch space ads that can't be updated in any way? We can get images back from Mars, I think we can get data signals to low orbit satellite ads.

Like here is a live video feed from the ISS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86YLFOog4GM

Well I think at this exact moment it's recorded footage. It can't broadcast 100% of the time but my point is there is no way any company is going to spend the money to send up just one, un-updatable ad.

Also, and this is probably way more relevant than my first link, people have already hacked satellites: https://www.freethink.com/space/decommissioned-satellite-hacking

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[deleted] t1_irijpqv wrote

Are you under the belief that NASA satellites themselves are connected to the internet? I think you’re mistaken on what I meant. It’s impossible, for your personal computer to make an connection with the satellite as your computer has no way of sending “information” to the satellite. Even if you did have the physical possibility of somehow connecting to this satellite , likely through using radio equipment, satellites aren’t protected with just basic “protection” like passwords.

Decommissioned satellites aren’t comparable to active ones.

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MoobooMagoo t1_iril20c wrote

No you can't hack into the satellite directly, but the company is going to have an uplink somewhere and you can hack into that.

And the security of the satellite is going to depend on the company that owns and builds it. It's not like you can walk down to Satellites-R-Us and get some default model that comes with all sorts of security pre-installed. Some of them may very well have basic protections.

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[deleted] t1_irilh13 wrote

No, the security isn’t as basic as “software security”. There is only one way to connect to a satellite, which is through radio signals, which guess what, due to there being only one way to connect to the satellite, it’s easily detectable and traceable aswel.

It’s easier to hack the company itself then to hack the satellite. Governments can’t even accomplish this feat, you think ordinary humans with 300 dollar equipment will?

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MoobooMagoo t1_irinp56 wrote

You think the government isn't made of ordinary humans?

Although I understand the point you're trying to make about resources. And yes it would be easier to hack the company, that's literally what I said. I'm not saying it would be easier to build your own satellite uplink and then hack the satellite directly. That'd be stupid. Who would do that? Why would you ever think that was what I meant? That's like if I said "I'm walking to the store" and you got bent out of shape telling me how hard it is to walk on your hands so walking to the store is a dumb idea.

You would obviously hack the company then use their own uplink to send your code to the satellite. And the detectability and traceability of the signal doesn't matter because it's just going to lead them back to the company's uplink.

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[deleted] t1_iriowrb wrote

Should have made that clear given that your second response to this discussion implied “directly hacking the satellite” rather than hacking the company.

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MoobooMagoo t1_irj6dhi wrote

"No you can't hack into the satellite directly, but the company is going to have an uplink somewhere and you can hack into that."

I don't know how much more clear I could have been.

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[deleted] t1_irj74ig wrote

My bad, I meant your second comment, not your second response. Your second comment held zero mention of “hacking the company” but rather the implication of the satellite itself.

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MoobooMagoo t1_irjktt0 wrote

Oh ok I see what you're saying.

I still stand by my assertion that it should have been obvious that I meant hack the satellite through the company, because the alternative would be silly.

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