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yada_yadad_sex t1_iuo365f wrote

Reply to comment by Guiver5000 in New RSV vaccines are on track to make this one of the last bad cold seasons by Man-from-Hjelmdall

Trials were just as rigorous as any. It was 18 months before covid vaccines came out. Speed of vaccine rollout was fast due to emergency situation, but to suggest the science was sidestepped is complete nonsense. And you're just repeating the antivax conspiracy talking points. Efficacy of the vaccines has shown to be what the science established. Not only that but they were only slightly less effective against new variants, and updated vaccines could be rolled out quickly.

This should be celebrated, not diminished to some crackpot level of antivax fodder. Covid trials saw some of the most open, collaborative, publicised, and independently reproduced science in human history. And the work on mRNA has expedited towards very promising stuff like cancer treatment.

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Digital_loop t1_iuox8nl wrote

I've explained it to people like this.

If you have 100 really smart people working on 100 different things and it takes 1 year for all 100 things to get developed... Imagine how quickly everything could be done if all 100 people focused on just 1 thing!

Thats what happened with the covid vaccines. We took the world's smarted people away from all of the other projects and set them to a singular problem to solve. Of course we developed a vaccine in less than a year!

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Mountain_Fig_9253 t1_iupdj1u wrote

Exactly and then we removed all financial risk from the companies which let them move right into manufacturing after they designed the formulation.

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CommunicationOk8674 t1_iupp3qh wrote

I did not look at US evidence because it was so politicized, but Israel. Ok, here is a really educated country that is surrounded by countries that want them exterminated. Are they going to give their people a vaccine to make themselves weaker? Uh no.Very aggressive in vaccinations.

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Eladriol t1_iuoq5vy wrote

It was about 10 months surely

Edit: downvote all you want, they were approved for emergancy use Dec 2020 https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-key-action-fight-against-covid-19-issuing-emergency-use-authorization-first-covid-19

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playdohfunfactory t1_iuprd8i wrote

No. Decades.

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Eladriol t1_iuqes53 wrote

No, 11 months (assuming you take the start of the pandemic as roughly mid feb)

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-key-action-fight-against-covid-19-issuing-emergency-use-authorization-first-covid-19

That the delivery platform had been under research for decades doesn't mean that every vaccine using that platform is safe and effective. The specific vaccines delivered were evaluated individually and approved for emergancy use in the same year that covid 19 was first identified.

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playdohfunfactory t1_iuqq66r wrote

Yea, double down on the stupid. That'll show 'em.

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Eladriol t1_iuqqlho wrote

Where am I incorrect?

The virus was first reviewed internationally c. Jan-feb 2020,

vaccines from multiple delivery paths (not just mnra) were individually tested in 2020

Based on those individual trials, some vaccines were approved starting from around December 2020

Therefore the vaccines were developed and trialled in c. 10-11 months

I think your argument is that because some underlying technologies, like mrna which supports 2 of the vaccines used, were developed before the pandemic the trial period was decades. I think that's as stupid as saying a car developed in 2022 was tested for over a century because of the model T.

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playdohfunfactory t1_iur137m wrote

Let's save us both some time.

If you don't want to get vaccinated, don't get vaccinated.

If you want to be a member of the secret cool guy's club that knows the "real truth" about covid and vaccines and flat earth and TrUmP AcTuAlLy WoN tHe ElEcTiOn, etc...then uh, fine I guess?

But please run along and do that somewhere else. The adults are having a conversation in here.

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Eladriol t1_iur1qag wrote

I am in fact vaccinated, though not sure why thats relevant to whether weve tested for decades a vaccine against a virus first identified in 2020. I'm also not american so I don't know why trump comes into it, other than he obviously has had a massive impact on your mental health.

Anyway I see you've veered of into random noise and screeching rather than try to defend your claim the covid vaccine was In development for longer than the virus has existed. So I agree, let's not waste any time - continue screaming into the void.

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