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MoistPossum t1_ixdk2wg wrote

I've seen the commercials. How many people are going to order pizza from a different place just because they are jumping on the EV bandwagon?

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BlackDawn07 t1_ixdohxc wrote

They will make money by not having to pay their drivers mileage. Not from gaining customers.

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PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixdquy5 wrote

$1/delivery * 100 deliveries/day/vehicle * 7 * 50 (2 weeks off for various repairs or slow days over the year, = $35,000.

New Chevy bolt price: $25k? 27?

However that includes no upkeep... tires alone are like like 1-3K/year...

Maybe it's a good move?

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BlackDawn07 t1_ixdr5ax wrote

Mileage is 2$ a delivery.

And I'm sure dominos got a significant discount on the cars.

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Jeebusify119 t1_ixe3man wrote

I used to work at dominos a few years back. Our fee was $3 and I got less than half of that. It's location dependent and it changes depending on a fuel pricing index.

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BlackDawn07 t1_ixe45yu wrote

Seems about right. I live in SoCal so 5.99$ is pretty unsurprising.

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Jeebusify119 t1_ixe4hac wrote

Oh they're charging 6 up here now. I wouldn't be surprised if the driver got 2 of that. I have never worked anywhere than pinched pennies as hard as that org does.

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BlackDawn07 t1_ixe4qlj wrote

It's not just dominos. Papa John's was just as bad when I worked for them. I was assistant manager and only made 50 cents more than the regular insiders...lol

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Jeebusify119 t1_ixe4zla wrote

Lol. Yeah, they offered me a shift lead position for .10 over minimum wage. I wasn't about to hop off the road for more labor and half the pay.

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BlackDawn07 t1_ixe552p wrote

100%. I only did it for a couple years before switching to driver. Was honestly a super chill gig. Having money in my pocket after every shift was great too.

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Jeebusify119 t1_ixe5js0 wrote

Driving is where it was at. Every now and then I miss that job. But yeah fuck the big corporate guys, they treat everybody like a replaceable cog.

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BlackDawn07 t1_ixe76v3 wrote

I feel you on missing it. I make much more money overall where I am now...but there was always something freeing about not having really any responsibility and being able to spend most of your shift in your car blasting the radio.

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PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixdrcpm wrote

are you sure? delivery fee is $2 that doesn't necessarily all go to the driver, I've never worked at doms, though so I'm not sure how they do it.

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BlackDawn07 t1_ixdrlvz wrote

Unsure of where you live but delivery for me at dominos is 5.99.

I worked at a papa John's for 7 years and mileage then was $1.50 and that was 7 years ago.

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PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixdrx4y wrote

maybe I've been out of the game too long lol. $5.99 delivery fee!?!? we're not talking door dash here, that's straight from the horses ass? domino's just straight up charges $6 per delivery?

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Calexander3103 t1_ixevpfh wrote

Tires are 1-3k/yr??? I know I’m not a delivery driver, but that’s swapping my tires 2-6 times per year, and getting reasonable tires. Seems kind of excessive to me, but maybe I’m not swapping my tires often enough.

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PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixezkxa wrote

Delivery drivers put a lot of miles through tires quickly. I did change tires twice a year when I was doing delivery, that's what I based that off of @ $150/tire

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Unasked_for_advice t1_ixe4l4z wrote

Upkeep? You must be dreaming to think they will actually spend money on that.

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redingerforcongress OP t1_ixe85dg wrote

Other than new tires, there isn't upkeep

Coolant flush after 250k miles [after the battery is dead?]

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PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixez3hc wrote

It's a car driven by various young people that is owned by their employer that they probably have little respect for. There will be upkeep.

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PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixez72n wrote

If not, the cars are no longer useful and the entire initiative will have been a complete waste.

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redingerforcongress OP t1_ixe7vg9 wrote

Alright, let's do better math;

> According to a pizza delivery driver from Ohio, drivers can average “around 80–120 miles on your car per night

Let's estimate 100 miles per night;

Milage is $0.625 / mile; personal vehicle ownership assumes only 260 working days whereas fleet car is operating 360

Cost of milage for personal car [260 days]: $16,250

Cost of milage for personal car [360 days]: $22,500

Cost of milage for personal car [1800 days]: ~$112,500 [we assume this number is not accurate given that change in milage]

Each night, Dominos fleet major expense is electricity, which at residential rates of $0.10 / kwh, that'd be ~$2.85 / night / car [3.5 kw / mile, 100 miles / night]

Battery durability should allow for more than 80% after 5 years, 180,000 miles easily

So, looking at 5 year total;

Total cost of Bolt [1800 days]:

Electricity: $5130

Tires: $2400

Car: $27,000

Total: $34,530

I feel like I should just make this an algebraic expression so I can wolframalpha yall a chart when it makes sense for Dominos to buy their own fleet vs paying milage

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SpaghetiJesus t1_ixektor wrote

Am a MIT at Dominos that is getting one of these Bolts, was supposed to get them a month and a half ago actually, and while they’re talking about the environment in their press release, it’s almost entirely to long term save on mileage paid out to the drivers and then very slightly opening up better solutions to when you’re short handed on drivers and have an excess of insiders. Ot won’t save Dominos money in the short term but long term it’s going to add up to a ridiculous amount of year after year savings.

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thebookofmer t1_ixdpqi7 wrote

Why would they pay mileage if they own the vehicle lol

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BlackDawn07 t1_ixdpuys wrote

That's my point. They won't have to anymore.

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thebookofmer t1_ixdqpyg wrote

Do you think it's kind of comical that people think evs cost more money and that dominoes would buy these to save money?

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OptimalConcept143 t1_ixdmwgu wrote

This is the same company that irresponsibly tells people to recycle their dirty pizza boxes.

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Anon324Teller t1_ixdsu09 wrote

Yeah, I was confused when I saw their packaging say that. You don’t recycle greasy cardboard, you put it in the trash

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austinmiles t1_ixdth9w wrote

It can be composted if you have municipal composting. So that’s nice at least

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GoneIn61Seconds t1_ixdu7ty wrote

Isn’t grease bad for compost piles? We avoid putting it in ours

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austinmiles t1_ixdus9e wrote

Not in that amount. Municipal compost can also handle things like meat and bones. They mulch everything first which is why the compostable plastic works for them.

For smaller home compost I would probably not put any real trash in other than newspaper. Mostly because it dilutes the nutrients since its functionally sterile. We used to do lots of coffee, some citrus, small meat scraps, and newspapers layers in our vermiculture bin and it was CRAZY how fast they would run through everything. It was the richest compost I have ever seen.

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EndersInfinite t1_ixe8xmo wrote

I would, at least once out of supporting the cause, before probably reverting back to ordering actual new york pizza in new york city cause that's where i live.

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just-here-2-par-t t1_ixeanu4 wrote

Might make them feel better if they don’t think about amount of resources it takes to really deliver them their sub par cardboard topped with tomato sugar paste and what qualifies legally as mozzarella cheese in a box.

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ktpr t1_ixeuv54 wrote

I would. At least initially and doing a taste test.

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vdhPaXL0Km t1_ixdqkdb wrote

Are they expecting people to switch because of it? Or feel better ordering because of it?

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