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RampantRooster t1_ixdopqb wrote

Tbh as someone who used to deliver pizzas, I'd take anything, EV or not, to avoid putting hundreds of miles a week on my own car.

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Val_kyria t1_ixe7km1 wrote

Depends how the franchise does reimbursement the per mile rate for us makes it worth using my own car.

Unfortunately the last time Domino's did a car things they had no plans for maintenance or accountability so the cars just got run into the ground and left to rot after a year

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ThatOtherOneReddit t1_ixf1ey8 wrote

Nice thing about Electric cars is that they need A LOT less maintenance. Big issue I see is that no way they go a whole day without a charge. With a highspeed charger if they can recharge it 20-30 miles in 5 minutes it will probably be fine.

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RampantRooster t1_ixf7s2w wrote

The store I worked for had a stupid large area, and even on the worst days, I don't think I ever put more than 80 miles on during an 8 hour shift. Get some cars with ~200 mile range, plug em in overnight and when a driver clocks out, and you're good.

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PrinceDusk t1_ixgoqpe wrote

I've been driving for a year now and in 8 hours I think ~150 was the most I've done in my area, but it's still a rare day to do 100+

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Pushmonk t1_ixf5aex wrote

It's doubtful they would be hitting the max range during peak business hours. And then charge in the the down time before and after. Seems like it could be a good idea.

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Val_kyria t1_ixfjto9 wrote

City stores you're hustling if you even do 100 mi in a 10hr shift

Rural stores you can do 20-30 round trips

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SolidGreenDay t1_ixgwz96 wrote

Bolt EVs are not very fast at charging. According to them it's up to 95 miles in 30 minutes, but I believe they will manage since any idle time the car gets at the store it would be charging assuming they setup chargers near or at their stores.

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GloopCompost t1_ixebtu4 wrote

Could someone buy those electric cars I bet they'd be easier to maintain than normal car.

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KJ6BWB t1_ixfpa4m wrote

> Depends how the franchise does reimbursement the per mile rate for us makes it worth using my own car.

This. How much are they going to charge drivers for the dubious privilege of not using their own car?

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qwert45 t1_ixfwybu wrote

Prolly take half their tips, and pocket the delivery fee they used to split with the driver.

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teatimewithbatman1 t1_ixg192v wrote

Legally they cannot take half their tips unless they make at least minimum wage....it is likely though delivery pay will be removed, and based on tips only

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pinkfootthegoose t1_ixg1iw8 wrote

yeah but those executive got them bonuses for that year because of the "huge profits."

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YoImBenwah t1_ixdpbj2 wrote

I used to live in Michigan and delivered pizzas, full-time. I kept all my receipts for 2016 in regards to my car (fuel, maintenance, parts like new blades et cetera) and filed a long-form which got me less than $100 short of the standard deduction, so I wasted all that time for absolutely no financial incentive.

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NorCalAthlete t1_ixdtvqr wrote

I mean, that’s kind of the point of the standard deduction though isn’t it? To save time for the people with the least to spare?

Let the people who can hire someone else to do their taxes and actually spend far more than the standard deduction worry about filing all that stuff.

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ThatOtherOneReddit t1_ixf1wd4 wrote

Think the bigger issue people that don't have this overhead get the same amount of a deduction. So a pizza delivery driver is spending more but getting less than a business would since their scale is just a single individual.

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iwoketoanightmare t1_ixfpn8e wrote

What you’re supposed to do is claim mileage from the employer and get the IRS rate as a reimbursement. Then they claim the deduction.

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darkshark9 t1_ixfe2yu wrote

I used to work at Dominos. I am 100% certain these aren't actually going to be used by delivery drivers outside of mega-crunchtimes like the day of the Superbowl. These cars will be for the franchise owners and will probably sit in the store driveway as a form of advertising.

They'll keep making drivers use their own cars.

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JimC29 t1_ixgmd1f wrote

I drove for them at a store with company cars. That was 30 years ago though.

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RampantRooster t1_ixff4w1 wrote

I feel like they could do a lot better than Chevy Bolts for that. Mach-e's or something. And to be honest I think it really depends on if corporate is freely allocating these cars to stores, or if they're gonna charge the stores/drivers somehow to use them. I know the Papa John's franchise I worked for wouldn't take the cars unless they were free.

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fartingwiffvengeance t1_ixg2q8m wrote

The delivery fee they charge us… I bet it doesn’t go to the driver am I right ?

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RampantRooster t1_ixg3daz wrote

I can only speak from my own experience, and I worked as a driver from about May 2011 to July 2015 at Papa John's.

At the time, our delivery fee was $2, and I got $1 per delivery flat for mileage. So the answer is "partly". The boxes we used at the time had the whole "the delivery fee isn't paid out to the driver, so please tip" thing, but it wasn't 100% true. I don't know how it's changed since.

I got 100% of the tip, minus any I tipped out to the in store workers.

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fartingwiffvengeance t1_ixg66ha wrote

I ordered not long ago. Currently it is a five dollar delivery fee. Then they go on to say please appreciate our drivers (because we don’t) and leave them a tip. I was cynical believing that the mandatory five dollar fee goes to the store and not to the driver who is actually doing the delivering and also risking their ass out there. I normally don’t do any delivery but I had Covid. I didn’t want to go out and infect people for pizza.

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RampantRooster t1_ixg998x wrote

It's gotten stupid, and I've seen the same amounts for delivery fees.

To be honest, I'd fully believe it's just greed and the store is pocketing most, if not all, of that five bucks. But I don't know for sure, obviously.

For what it's worth, I did also make minimum wage hourly. It wasn't that sort of situation where I got less hourly because tips. 7+ years ago, me making ~$16/hour after tips and before gas and vehicle maintenance was actually pretty decent for a college student where I lived. Those 8-9 hour weekend closing shifts where I'd go home with $130 in my pocket were pretty nice.

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fartingwiffvengeance t1_ixgcxg0 wrote

oh yea... i used to wipe down cars for tips. I came home with more singles than a stripper.

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PrinceDusk t1_ixgpt8a wrote

currently driving for Papa John's, yea. Technically you could think of it as "partly" but it's basically just an increase in food price by a different name.

At $3.50 an order, in my delivery area to go to the farthest point is maybe 12 miles round trip, I'm getting paid $0.45/mi, which actually by my math is $5.40 to be fair, however, we normally take 2 or more deliveries per trip, also the VAST majority of our orders is within a mile of us, so going on 2-3 miles round trip for most of our orders that makes only $0.90-$1.20 of that $3.50.

If I make 15 runs in a shift (maybe a slightly high average for me) I make the store about $52.50 minimum, and I get $1-2 per run for mileage, so that means about half the delivery fee, at best, makes it to me and I'm getting 5.50/hr driving and if I average $2 in mileage then I'm still not hitting federal minimum wage without someone tipping. And if you don't tip to stick it to the business then you're just kicking the poor driver that's just trying to make some money without breaking their back or shelling out a ton for college...

moral of the story, if you get something delivered and don't tip then you're just hurting a server, the delivery fee is not a tip and mileage paid can fluctuate. If you don't like delivery fees or tipping, then - with all due respect - use your own car to go get your own food.

(none of any perceived salt was directed at you specifically, fartingwiffvengeance)

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erath_droid t1_ixgs4i7 wrote

I mean... it's printed on the box that the delivery fee doesn't go to the driver...

They ain't even hiding it...

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Blazien t1_ixfv1t1 wrote

Also nice to not get dents on roof of car from putting on and taking off car topper shift after shift .

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Savagescythe t1_ixgvqj1 wrote

Funny enough 800 is nothing compared to the amount of delivery drivers. They will be used but I’m unsure how often. In my area we have/had a dominos car but from what I saw the district abs regional mangers used it to get around and publicity.

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