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New2thegame t1_ixhs7x0 wrote

Reply to comment by Karasumor1 in On The Rising Non-Working Class (And What Their Despair Says About Us All) by capcaunul

I generally agree... however, I think the principle is that if you try hard, even a menial job can give you a sense of pride when done well. It also gives you a sense of pride to know that you have provided for yourself, your needs, and the needs of your loved ones, even if, or especially if you did it by enduring a crappy job. Think of the people who work in the fields for 12 hours a day. There's not a lot of pride that comes from giving up. Sure you can survive, but survival is different than pride. At the end of the day, whether we like it or not, people need something to be proud of and I think there's something significant about knowing that you have endured enough to provide for yourself. Just a humble thought.

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DeltaV-Mzero t1_ixifzxe wrote

I appreciate your thoughts but do not think you can apply it universally

some people will get a sense of pride form having worked a tough job and gotten a sub-living wage

Others will do the same job, get no gratification from it at all, and dread the prospect of wasting 80% of their waking hours of life doing something they hate

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