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sajtu t1_ixi0lhr wrote

It is other people forcing them into a system where they must work to live, which is unnecessary and merely a tool to enforce hierarchy. Nobody should have to work who doesn't want to because we would be able to manage without them while also taking care of everyone. It it just not so at the moment. Peoepl are saying fuck it until then. You don't have to, but don't force your beliefs about what kind of behaviour should be rewarded with the oportunity to keep on living.

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Dynamo_Ham t1_ixio0po wrote

If it’s your opinion that people ought not be expected to actually be productive and support themselves - that’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it. It’s not mine. And I’m fine with eating the downvotes on that.

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sajtu t1_ixj4ox6 wrote

This isn't about downvotes. You are in favor of a mix of super complicated slavery and religion. You think it is fine for people to suffer and toil pointlessly. You are wrong.

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Dynamo_Ham t1_ixjasgr wrote

Bullshit. I believe in reasonable pay for a day’s work, with benefits, and healthcare. I don’t believe people have a “right” to do nothing and get supported by society. Hopefully someday we’ll live in a post-scarcity world and everyone can do what they want. If people want to waste their lives doing nothing then - great. But we don’t live in that world now. Generating wealth requires effort. That wealth should be fairly shared - yes. It’s not today - I agree. I should be. But the people who are able-bodied and decide to do literally nothing useful? Tough shit.

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sajtu t1_ixjmhv4 wrote

Look up that horseshit about not being post scarcity.

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sajtu t1_ixjmic5 wrote

Look up that horseshit about not being post scarcity.

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