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MaybeACoder007 t1_j12azp8 wrote

It’s sad. We are overpopulated, undereducated, and harming other species.

If we don’t reduce the population significantly then we won’t have a population at all.


ILikeNeurons t1_j12hwdq wrote

Preventing unwanted pregnancies is a cost-effective and ethical way to reduce environmental destruction and minimize population growth, and 45% of pregnancies in the U.S. are unintended. Of those, 58% will result in birth. Comprehensive sex education would go a long way, too, and many states do not include it in their curricula, even though comprehensive sex education has strong bipartisan support among likely American voters. Many women at high risk of unintended pregnancy are unaware of long-acting reversible contraceptive options, and many men don't know how to use a condom properly, which does actually make a huge difference. Besides that, it could help to ensure everyone has access to effective contraception, so consider advocating policies that improve accessibility of long-acting reversible contraceptives and help get the word out that it is ethical to give young, single, childless women surgical sterilization if that is what they want.

As for the rest of the world, it would help to donate to girls' education. It might also (perhaps counter-intuitively) help to improve childhood mortality by, say, donating to the Against Malaria Foundation.

All that said, population is not the most significant cause of climate change -- it's the market failure. That's why the single most impactful climate mitigation policy is a price on carbon, and the most impact you as an individual can have is to volunteer to create the political will to get it passed.

And returning the revenue from a carbon tax as an equitable dividend would help a little bit with inequality, while creating jobs and growing the economy.

Taxing carbon is in each nation's own best interest, and the IPCC makes clear carbon pricing is necessary.

Policy changes absolutely dwarf the magnitude of the impact of having one less child.


Surur t1_j139f4h wrote

So since we are not going to change policy having no children is the most impactful thing an environmentalist can do, right?

One environmentalist not having 2 children is the same as 60 people not driving? If environmentalists made up 5% of the population and none of them had any children it would be the same impact as if everyone stopped driving.

Sounds like a good deal to me.


DeadWing651 t1_j12fzu7 wrote

How do you significantly decrease the population without committing mass genocides and other evils?


MaybeACoder007 t1_j12gt14 wrote

I mean you can’t really reduce the current population through Euthanasia, women’s and LGBTQ rights… but you decrease the following generations significantly.


historycat95 t1_j12czmr wrote

Ok, Thanos.

What is the "bright line" that defines overpopulation? Capitalism creates a false sense of overpopulation, when the real issue is that resources are not adequately distributed because it's not profitable.

If trillions of dollars weren't currently being used as a dragon's hoard we could easily live on this planet with enough for all and little impact on the environment.


clampie t1_j12l9sv wrote

Capitalism has produced that dragon's hoard if you look at the path of development from a thousand years to today, especially from the industrial age to now.


NordicQualia t1_j12dfzb wrote

Uhm... what? Climate change won't wipe out humanity, no matter how bad it gets, but hundreds of millions of people are at risk of suffering a lot from it, particularly in impoverished nations due to drought causing deadly heat waves, food, and water shortages etc. but according to you that is good because then we have reduced the population?

Overconsumption is the problem, not overpopulation. As long as unrestricted capitalism reigns supreme this won't end.


AG2dayAG t1_j12ex8l wrote

Ww3 is coming that'll get the population down. Add another pandemic and the plan is in place


ladybugsarecoolbro t1_j12jj6e wrote

I wish they’d just legalize euthanasia so I could opt out. Save us all some trouble.


AG2dayAG t1_j12jqfj wrote

What are going to do if you take yourself out arrest you?