sohaibshaheen t1_j0fwvpp wrote on December 16, 2022 at 10:08 AM

Reply to comment by __ingeniare__ in Predictive Artificial Intelligence by Final-Cause9540

As far as I know, determinism is a philosophical idea not an established fact and theory is what it is, just a theory. Just because it isn’t possible to prove it doesnt mean that we will blindly trust it. Theories exist on both side of arguments, even free will to some extent negates the idea of determinism completely.

CubeFlipper t1_j0gwhvm wrote on December 16, 2022 at 3:40 PM

>even free will to some extent negates the idea of determinism completely.

This is a conclusion drawn backwards, I think. If determinism is the evidence we have, then it is determinism that negates the idea of free will. Free will is an illusion.

sohaibshaheen t1_j0h16dg wrote on December 16, 2022 at 4:11 PM

Like i said its a philosophical debate not an absolute one. Idea of free will has not been rejected and wont ever be in my opinion. You could be right or you could be wrong, we will never know as long as people on both sides of the argument live :)

sohaibshaheen t1_j0fwxvm wrote on December 16, 2022 at 10:09 AM

I have learnt a-lot from this debate though so thanks a-lot for your time and valuable feedback.

ingeniare t1_j0g3rav wrote on December 16, 2022 at 11:40 AM

Determinism can be deduced from the laws of physics - if the laws are deterministic, then the universe is, by necessity, also deterministic. But there are many strange things we don't yet know about, such as consciousness and free will. So, no one really knows. Good talk!