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beastpilot t1_j1k9da5 wrote

Your Subaru / Toyota EV training told you to tell customers to avoid Tesla Superchargers?

The Toyota that famously has avoided EV's as long as they can and don't have ANY right now? Same with Subaru?

Consider your source. Anyone that refers to Generic DC Fast Charging as "superchargers" is not an expert on EV's.

Plenty of people with Teslas have supercharged exclusively and have data. Does it degrade? Yes. Is it "rapidly"? Not at all- some of these cars have 200K miles on them and still have 80%+ capacity.


Corsair4 t1_j1kj4xl wrote

>The Toyota that famously has avoided EV's as long as they can and don't have ANY right now? Same with Subaru?

If you're going to rant about accuracy, at least be correct. Toyota has the BZ4x, and the Lexus ux300e, and the soon to be released RZ450e.

Subaru has the Solterra.

The Bz4x and Solterra are basically the same vehicle. They aren't brilliant, but their existence is not disputable.


SSGSS_Bender t1_j1kbor8 wrote

  1. I never mentioned Tesla Superchargers, they are proprietary. Any EV Supercharger that charges faster than what you can get installed at home will degrade your battery much faster.
  2. Toyota bZ4X & Subaru Solterra
  3. I don't dispute that some brands handle it better. I just know that Toyota, Subaru, Kia, Hyundai, Chevy, and Ford recommend that you stick to slow charging for longevity.

beastpilot t1_j1kcgjc wrote

  1. "Supercharger" is a Tesla trademarked term. It always means a Tesla charger. The term you are looking for that is used exclusively in the industry is DC Fast Charger (DCFC).

  2. Yes, they have one now, in exceedingly limited supply. 10 years after Tesla, who has now shipped 3M vehicles, so maybe they aren't experts on batteries yet??

  3. You took Subaru/Toyota training and are sure Kia, Hyundai, Chevy, and Ford all recommend sticking to "slow charging to avoid "rapid degradation"?

Citation needed. What defines "fast charging?" What defines "rapid degradation?"

Are you aware Federal Law requires 8 years/100K mile battery warranties with minimal degradation?

The reason they don't want you to DCFC is they don't want you to realize how minimal the support for DCFC is right now if you don't have a Tesla.