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DJ_Rand t1_j1fkhhl wrote

Reply to comment by Durris in When do you guys think teleportation will be a means of commercial travel? by Practical_Put_3892

I don't think you comprehend the argument. The argument is that even though everything else may appear to be the same, and for all intents and purposes to everyone else obersving you it would be....

But the argument people are giving you is that what if YOU are completetly DEAD. Teleporting was just an incinerator that killed you, and something exactly like you was in your place on the other side.

The argument is whether or not you would wake up or not and still get to live your life. If i am dead and dont wake up, but something else gets to live as me, that kind of makes my life moot.

If a clone of me wakes up, but the real me is instead experiencing darkness forever because of death.... thats a big difference.

Your argument is simply "but if you wake up how would you know" the point everyone else is making to you is: what if you don't wake up, and something else is now living your life instead of you?

Do you underatand that last part? That youre dead? Something else gets to live your life, while the real you never got to experience it?

Youre stuck on: yeah but its your atoms. Everyone else is stuck on: Do I, my current stream of consciousness get to continue to exist or am i basically dead and a clone of me gets to live instead?

Those are two different things. And teleportation could be either one. We don't know. People will all accept doing it if there's a way to ensure you don't just simply die and have something else live on as you.

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Durris t1_j1fnfxt wrote

"experiencing darkness forever" so it is an afterlife issue for you. I'm not talking about atoms being copied, I specified consciousness. An exact copy of your consciousness is you.

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DJ_Rand t1_j1fqaln wrote

Nothing to do with afterlife. Its to emphasize that whatever is after death is likely what youll experience. You are arguing what many scientists consider wrong/impossible. That even though "you" reformed might be all the same atoms, which poses its own problems in transporting just the atoms alone, but many scientists believe the person that gets reformed isnt actually you. You would not be the teleported person. Itd be a new you. Pre-teleport you, dead. In the grand scheme, assuming you don't mind being dead, then you are right, it wouldn't matter and your clones wouldn't know the difference. I guess it just matters if you mind dying and letting a copy live in your place.

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Durris t1_j1frmpl wrote

Why are you going on about the possibility of this happening in a question that is based on the premise of this being a reality? We are supposing that you can be copied, and that you are your consciousness. The transportation of matter isn't even important to this question so stop talking about atoms. You can experience nothing so that isn't a concern either. It all boils down to, are you your consciousness and if that consciousness is moved or copied, are you still you.

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DJ_Rand t1_j1fs9ui wrote

The guy you originally responded to said he would never trust a teleporter because it wouldnt be him. You're the only one going on about the possibility of your consciousness being copied as still being you. As if you can't understand what a copy means. Last response from me. Have a good one.

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Durris t1_j1fu3ni wrote

and I asked him about an exact copy of his consciousness. You lose continuity with reality every single day but I assume you don't have any issues with that or believing that you are still you despite you being a little different each and every time you regain consciousness. If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, are you still you.

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