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daihlo t1_j5g7zf4 wrote

Hospitals have been using maggots to debride dead flesh from wounds and leeches to prevent blood clots and keep blood flowing freely

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ToothlessGrandma t1_j5ghuu1 wrote

I don't even need a hospital. They've been growing out of me for years.

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criticalpwnage t1_j5gs9jw wrote

Are you a zombie?

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[deleted] t1_j5h3wlw wrote

Probably one of those Darktide enemies where you hit them and maggots explode out of them.

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Doom_Eagles t1_j5k0ezh wrote

Hey now let's not be hasty here.

Nurgle's Pox Walkers smell way better than that guy.

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AustinTreeLover t1_j5k2r7m wrote

My parents were medical providers and they told me about using leeches. That was in the 1990s.

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TheDrakeRamoray t1_j5qetix wrote

They still use them. Especially in surgical fields when you do a reconstruction with a flap to decrease the amount of venous congestion (blood pooling up). When they are done eating you throw them into a bucket of alcohol and they explode.

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mlorusso4 t1_j5i2kbx wrote

Stupid article. Maggots have been an accepted treatment in western medicine for necrotic tissue like diabetes and burn victims for decades (centuries of you want to go past modern medicine). The key is these medical grade maggots are bred in an incredibly sterile environment. They’re not just leaving the window open and letting a bunch of garbage flies have at it

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juxtoppose t1_j5gaymr wrote

If it works it works, who gives a shit if people are squeamish.

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Jazzlike_Mountain_51 t1_j5ghx4c wrote

My thoughts exactly. I'm squeamish about being cut open too but if you need to look under the hood knock me out and go for it

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juxtoppose t1_j5gjc1d wrote

I listened to a radio program on the subject, not only remove the dead tissue but they have something anti inflammatory in their saliva which prevents infections taking hold.

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intdev t1_j5h8jus wrote

And most importantly, they remove only dead tissue. Even the world’s best surgeon with the best equipment would have to cut away chunks of healthy tissue to make sure they’d got it all, but these guys can minimise the “collateral damage”, reducing the need for skin grafts to close the wound.

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Avalanche2 t1_j5h3cw5 wrote

Who is shocked? This has been a thing for decades.

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prexton t1_j5hzng2 wrote

Longer I believe...clickbait title

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HermitAndHound t1_j5ikyuj wrote

In the article: Shocked how well it works.

Not because it's such an odd thing to do.

It's not super common, but the maggots are so much more delicate when cleaning a wound than surgical options. They don't damage what healthy tissue remains so it can grow and close the wound faster. And some of those wounds are so horrifying the maggots look downright cute in comparison.

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Sleestakman t1_j5jy0c2 wrote

But the people in the photos are wearing labcoats. Must be cutting edge.

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filosoful OP t1_j5g5qr9 wrote

BioMonde supplies greenbottle larvae for treatment of non-squeamish patients across Europe

Hundreds of UK health service hospitals as well as clinics in Germany are using maggots to clean chronic wounds such as diabetic leg ulcers and speed up the healing process – reviving a centuries-old tradition practised by Maya tribes in Central America and Indigenous Australians.

During the first world war, the US doctor William Baer realised wounds with maggots in them healed much faster than those without. He started growing larvae on a hospital windowsill to treat patients with osteomyelitis, a bone inflammation.

By the end of the 1930s, 300 hospitals in the US and Canada were using maggots, but their use declined with the arrival of penicillin and other antibiotics, only to be rediscovered in the 1990s amid growing antibiotic resistance.

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OldsDiesel t1_j5i3oew wrote

Dude, I saw medical maggots used on patients like 15 years ago on TV. I'm pretty sure the discovery channel had it on back when they actually showed educational television haha.

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driku12 t1_j5hzeb3 wrote

My great grandpa had a buddy who served in WW2 in the Pacific. My GG was not able to serve himself due to health problems, as I understand it. But his friend saw some pretty insane action, including but not limited to literally getting part of his cheek blown off by a stray bullet. He was in shock, sort of panicked and played dead, and just laid on the beach for hours and hours in the sun hoping he would survive the ordeal. The exposed flesh started to fester, flies gathered on his face, but he didn't move. Maggots happened, but he was too scared to wipe them off. When the Japanese were going around stabbing bodies to make sure they were dead, the soldier that came to him ignored him because of the maggots crawling all over his face. Obviously anyone in that condition was deceased. Dude passed him over, when night came, he got up and managed to meet up with some other Americans. The maggots had actually eaten away most of the infected flesh, keeping the infection from spreading too badly. Once he got home he relayed the story to my GG who told it to my grandpa who told it to me. Still think about it from time to time, the strength of will needed to just lay there and let maggots eat your face so you can make it home.

Tl;Dr: My great grandpa knew a dude who served in the Pacific who got wounded and played dead to survive. Maggots got in the wound and ended up saving his life by making him look realistically dead and also eating away a lot of the rancid meat.

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amdaly10 t1_j5i4re6 wrote

Is it futurology if we've been doing it for centuries?

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flagshipcopypaper t1_j5i96zo wrote

Old practice in animal husbandry. Back in the 40s my grandpa was a farmer and he would use maggots to clean wounds on his cattle.

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NewStGermain4356 t1_j5j5gmm wrote

We’re been doing this for millennia; how is this new?

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tallguy_100 t1_j5jbrea wrote

Back when I was fighting to conquer the last of the Germanic barbarians, I was betrayed and wounded in the shoulder. I woke up later in the hands of slavers and discovered maggots happily munching away at my decaying flesh. I later used that same arm to exact my revenge! 10/10 would use maggots again!

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stamper3332 t1_j5hbn1z wrote

Oooh! Girl, you know I would put these maggot enzymes on my face to exfoliate it!

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alphagusta t1_j5hivlt wrote

Wait till they learn what we still use Leeches for.

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mirthfun t1_j5hmrfq wrote

The weird part is something they excrete encourages faster healing... like... what...???

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HermitAndHound t1_j5ilcfj wrote

Their digestive enzymes only dissolve dead cells and bacteria. Whatever live tissue is left within the wound finally gets a chance to grow. Surgically cleaning a wound always damages healthy tissue too, the wound is bigger than it was before. Hopefully it's also clean afterwards so it can heal, but maggots are more precise at it.

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FuturologyBot t1_j5gb3mc wrote

The following submission statement was provided by /u/filosoful:


BioMonde supplies greenbottle larvae for treatment of non-squeamish patients across Europe

Hundreds of UK health service hospitals as well as clinics in Germany are using maggots to clean chronic wounds such as diabetic leg ulcers and speed up the healing process – reviving a centuries-old tradition practised by Maya tribes in Central America and Indigenous Australians.

During the first world war, the US doctor William Baer realised wounds with maggots in them healed much faster than those without. He started growing larvae on a hospital windowsill to treat patients with osteomyelitis, a bone inflammation.

By the end of the 1930s, 300 hospitals in the US and Canada were using maggots, but their use declined with the arrival of penicillin and other antibiotics, only to be rediscovered in the 1990s amid growing antibiotic resistance.


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astral_crow t1_j5h6225 wrote

I don’t know why maggots aren’t a large part of the beauty industry. Gross? Very much. But they can probably clean the dead skin off your feet much more gently and thoroughly than any pro.

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tiny_tim57 t1_j5ha7sr wrote

There are fish for that, it's popular in many Asian countries.

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TBTabby t1_j5i5l6z wrote

Doesn't that make people's toenails come off?

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Bonobo555 t1_j5ib31s wrote

They can’t be sanitized so they were quickly banned in most states. Not sure if you can find them in any state now.

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Rosy2020Derek t1_j5kopgl wrote

Maggots have been used for centuries to heal flesh wounds because they eat dead flesh which of left untreated an cause gangrene and lead to amputated limbs or death

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