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HippyWizard t1_j33o5gv wrote

Reply to comment by Surur in Depressing subreddit by CatharticFarts

That isn't true. Climate change people are just watching problems grow. The planet won't sustain us if we keep at it. We just want the world to wake the fuck up and start being smart.

Quit driving your f350s and watching nascar. Start opting into energy programs and ev's. Literally we support future tech. The Fuck!?

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Surur t1_j33rqdd wrote

> Start opting into energy programs and ev's. Literally we support future tech. The Fuck!?

Posts about solving climate change with technology have always been futurology. That is not what the 'keyboard activists' are about.

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HippyWizard t1_j33wprl wrote

Well make up your mind is it the climate activists or naturalists that you are complaining about and then use the correct term.

I am confused. Anyone else?

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Surur t1_j33x6t6 wrote

The 'climate change people' are not climate activists, or naturists.

The best label would be communists or the new fancy term, degrowth activists.

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HippyWizard t1_j33xc2y wrote

Right but, why are you purposely mislabeling ACTUAL activism?

Also unless you are a billionaire you want communism. Its the only form of "government" that is actually ran by the working class. Dont say "what about china and russia?" That literally isn't communism. One is an oligarchy(mafia) and the other still lets the "divine" emperor do whatever they want.

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Surur t1_j33yfs1 wrote

> why are you purposely mislabeling ACTUAL activism?

I have no idea what you are on about, but all you are doing is ruining a sub.

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HippyWizard t1_j33z7gd wrote

"It's the climate change people who want to squash any optimism about the future. They believe that progress is what is killing the world, and the right move is to go backwards (to the 1930's I think) so obviously they are anti futurology and they actively sabotage the content here." - Sursur

Why if there is an actual term that you know of are you grouping all climate activist into "climate change people"

Stop acting like you don't know what I am saying.

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Surur t1_j342zt1 wrote

Given that this is not a politics sub, climate change is their pretext always. They will come with climate-change-related "efficiency improvements" e.g. all cars should be banned in cities because of CO2, but 5 comments later, their real nature would be revealed.

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HippyWizard t1_j344v77 wrote

So, everyone here is a climate change person? And we are all bad cause we want to make rapid changes because we are running out of time? Because it is already too late? This shit needed to happen when Al Gore ran.

No one wants to go back to the 30s either. Idk what that's about.

Go to the Solarpunk sub. That's what I want. Eco cities, eco villages. Publicly funded, safe, public transportation.

I am sick of having to drive myself to slavery everyday shits getting real old.

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Surur t1_j3463cc wrote

> So, everyone here is a climate change person?

Certainly if the hat fits, wear it.

> Publicly funded, safe, public transportation. I am sick of having to drive myself to slavery everyday shits getting real old.

It's never what you can do for others, its what they can give you for free.

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HippyWizard t1_j346lun wrote

>It's never what you can do for others, its what they can give you for free

Uh, what?

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HippyWizard t1_j348bc3 wrote

You have it all wrong man. Its about what WE can all do for EACH OTHER.

Thats what kills me with Capitalist. Oh incentive incentives...ohhhh but, people just like to do things. We would all be bored af. We would build each other up as a community "Sursur just got married and they are expecting! Let go build their new home so they can have their own space now." Then you go do that as a community.

You have community gardens so everyone can have a space to grow food and you share it.

Fk how is this so hard for people to grasp? The only takers are the ones sitting in Office pretending to represent you.

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