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Fifthhorseman1 t1_j37x8iy wrote

Reply to comment by IcyyWizard in The future: our POV (ft. AIart issue) by thebestmtgplayer

I think human made art will always hold intrinsic value, they’ll be 2 distinct camps and human art will always be more ‘valuable’.

That, and, just like human art, only the best of the best AI art will be of any value to people.

I would argue that there’s already a virtually infinite mass of human made art in the world, by virtue of the explosion in population over the last generation or so. The argument that AI will flood the world with endless amounts of tat I find to be a bit weak, I think we’re already at that point?

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Quanlib t1_j38k0cj wrote

The difference is what someone is willing to pay for it. Yes it’s flooded, but yes AI can flood the market more; for less money. You must see the problem with this. The term “starving artist” has been around for over 250 years and it’s just getting worse with the industrialized commodity model.

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Fifthhorseman1 t1_j38lt5r wrote

I do get your point, but at the same time, are we not already past the point of human comprehension? Google Images for example, search for anything and put ‘art’ at the end, at this moment in time (or at least a year or so ago) the vast majority of the uncountable search results would be human made digital art, or an image thereof - my point being, I still feel we’ve already reached that point in my opinion, AI will definitely add to that 100x over, but it’s already incomprehensible volume.

I’m just a filthy casual philosophy wise, but I’m super interested in postmodern ideas; I’ve heard people refer to the present day as ‘The End of History’ - culture has disintegrated into infinite niche groups / bespoke experience for each individual, all music is a remix, rehash, or is fundamentally unoriginal at its core, and I think what we’re describing here is just another symptom of the world we’ve been delivered to, culture wise - quite mind blowing that we’ve born now to witness such profound changes to everything.

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clevelanders t1_j38obow wrote

Yeah but i think this is where philosophy meets the real world in terms of use licenses. So for designs and art used for business or anything that will be sold there are strict rules around what’s fair use and what’s not. Most creative projects and businesses alike are forced to work with artists to create unique designs because of those rules, as it’s not legal to just pull from Google images and release something for profit. So what AI art will do is make it way cheaper to get small artwork created, and our price current “starving artists” while also driving going rate in the market down tremendously.

It’s not about the art itself or the proliferation of art in the world, but the humane aspects of how AI’s creation and distribution model will impact the humans in the same creative space

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Fifthhorseman1 t1_j38p3ge wrote

For sure, I completely agree. It’s not ‘right’ (? Perhaps wrong word) but it’s just one of many industries that will be majorly disrupted by AI, albeit one that we all rightfully hold very close to our hearts - in our capitalist world, this is clearly now unavoidable for the reasons you’ve stated, every penny counts when it’s time for a corporation to get artsy.

EDIT: adding to this, I just want to emphasise how dearly humans hold art in their hearts, and when coupling this with the idea that perhaps (or maybe just me) art wasn’t what people were probably expecting to be the first major public victim of AI (over vehicles, law, accounting etc), I think this explains the strong public response.

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thebestmtgplayer OP t1_j38n2fd wrote

It might even become more interesting to actively investigate the residuals (what hasn't been depicted by humans yet). Or mess around with terrible AI that's so overfit it might produce quirky fun stuff :D

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