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PixelizedPlayer t1_j3f7oyr wrote

>Cancer just sitting there being cancer doesn’t make people die. Most people who get prostate cancer die with prostate cancer not from it for example. When cancer starts to spread around the body and make little bits of cancer all over the place, just growing and growing because that’s what cancer does….ultimately that’s what makes people die from it.

Cancer that spreads is what inevitably degrades your quality of life, after certain amount of damage even if you are in remission you can still have a severely decreased quality of life depending on the lottery of where cancer spread to.


Pickledicklepoo t1_j3f7z56 wrote

Yes which is why a treatment that prevents it from spreading and affecting quality of life in the first place to a significant degree would be a game changer


PixelizedPlayer t1_j3foa4v wrote

Stopping it spreading is pretty much a cure for the most part. If cancer never spreads it never reaches terminal, curious why we wouldn't conclude that as a cure ?


Pickledicklepoo t1_j3fqnth wrote

Well, think about diabetes for example. It isn’t a death sentence because there are treatments and things you can do to manage how the condition progresses but if you don’t have access to those treatments it’s gonna be a bad time for your longevity. A cure would mean you get a treatment that means you no longer have diabetes and you no longer need to worry about managing it or taking regular treatments to keep it from progressing. Likewise we wouldn’t say we have cured a cancer until we know that it has been completely eliminated with the underlying mutation or trigger or cause so to speak repaired or removed. Even when we can no longer detect cancer in a persons body it is not called cured if it had spread throughout the body it’s simply called “no evidence of disease” because it is likely it will ultimately cause trouble elsewhere in the body. If cancer has not yet spread and is removed then in theory that would be a cure yes.


PixelizedPlayer t1_j3g0za1 wrote

Isn't the idea of a vaccine being your immune learns to deal with it so its not a lifelong treatment of taking medication like diabetes? So is that comparable ?


Pickledicklepoo t1_j3hdip6 wrote

Yes, however that might be a bit of a blurry line depending on if this is a vaccine you must get boosters for for the rest of your life or if it’s a single treatment.