Submission Statement

It's starting to feel like AI development is now happening so quickly human institutions are floundering in its wake. Universities in particular, now look like many of their practices are outdated. This is yet another example that almost all their current methods of testing and assessment can be gamed by students using AI.

It's worth considering that AI's growth is exponential. As amazing as this looks in early 2023. The AI that will exist by the end of this decade will be hundreds of times more powerful than today.

The following submission statement was provided by /u/lughnasadh:

Submission Statement

It's starting to feel like AI development is now happening so quickly human institutions are floundering in its wake. Universities in particular, now look like many of their practices are outdated. This is yet another example that almost all their current methods of testing and assessment can be gamed by students using AI.

It's worth considering that AI's growth is exponential. As amazing as this looks in early 2023. The AI that will exist by the end of this decade will be hundreds of times more powerful than today.

Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/10fhy4c/claude_an_ai_some_consider_superior_to_chatgpt_3/j4wux2i/

For the record, George Mason University is a fringe, ultra-Libertarian school that served as the embryo for the political schemes of the Koch brothers.

At one point, GMU leadership had to beg the chair of the Economics department to please teach some genuine economics in addition to the ideology, because the students they were graduating at the time were unable to find employment since their basic skills were crap.

Source: Democracy in Chains, which follows the activities of Charles Koch's pet economist, James M. Buchanan, who ended up with near total control of GMU through his own position and through his influence over GMU's largest funders (the Kochs).

Claude might be good NLP + AI, but GMU is a diploma mill for cranks, so I wouldn't put a lot of store in this milestone. GMU's Law and Economics programs will take any body that can fog a mirror while quoting Ayn Rand.

LATE EDIT: my original comment (above, unedited) is sometimes imprecise about the whole university vs the Law & Econ department. My assertion is that GMU's L & E department is a diploma mill for cranks. I don't know anything about the rest of the school.

I stand by all my original statements, with the proviso they are mostly limited to L & E. And, because Claude took the L & E exam, I stand by my conclusion as well.

If you were a student in a different department at GMU, maybe you got a good education. Good for you! Although, it's a real shame you gave your tuition money to an organization that happily hosts a factory for weaponizable misinformation.

A person could probably pass that same entrance exam simply by writing "Ayn Rand is right" over and over until the bell.

Technologies have ALWAYS outpaced governance, laws, and their enforcement. First it takes recognition, secondly an ability to be appraised of technological developments and their implications. Thirdly the assessment of impact and implications to create laws that protect people from the potential harm and disruption of social norms and expectations.

No one realized they needed traffic rules and laws and pedestrian protections until the only 2 cars in OHIO collided...

"Ohio City, Ohio claims the first accident involving a gasoline-powered
auto, a little closer to what most of us think of as a car today. In
1891, engineer James Lambert was driving one of his inventions, an early
gasoline-powered buggy, when he ran into a little trouble. The buggy,
also carrying passenger James Swoveland, hit a tree root sticking out of
the ground. Lambert lost control and the vehicle swerved and crashed
into a hitching post. Both men suffered minor injuries."

... and laws regarding the responsibilities of Air Lines until flight was achieved and 'copied' their laws from those that existed regarding ships and shipping ... if you get my point.

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Say what you want about Buchanan, the guy won a Nobel Prize in Econ.

Also, yeah the graduate degrees in the econ department can be kinda cringe but the undergrad in econ at GMU has robust coursework in applied economics. I wouldn’t call it a diploma mill.

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With a memory that works efficiently and categorically. This is the least impressive thing I've heard about ai in a long time.

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Did Claude choose Law and Economics for it's degree or was it persuaded into it by it's parents?

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demonetizing education and giving students access world class instruction, in any language, for free, is a definitely a game changer

first ai to earn a doctorate ;-)

thats DOCTOR AI to you!

Which is why self driving cars are a scam. Nobody is seriously talking about the laws that need to be put in place. Who's responsible when a crash happens? Sure as hell Tesla isn't going to want to claim responsibility. Definitely shouldn't fall on the owner. So who gets the blame?

Until there's law for and what to do with insurance claims, self driving cars are a pipe dream.

Not only for education, but also health care. AI can analyze your symptoms and give you a far more accurate diagnosis than a standard doctor can. This has already been proven.

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In France, the manufacturer is liable in case of an accident (pecuniary & criminally) involving a self driving car. Should be the way to go everywhere else.

Is Claude up for testing as well or is this closed to the public?

With Microsoft laying pof 100k workers you can't help but wonder how many are replaced with A.I. Soon whole graphics departments will be gone, some already.

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I figured. Worth the shot, though.

No it’s not. Certain parts of GMU are like that — the Mercator Institute, the economics program, and the law school — but the rest is just normal.

ASSLAW alum here (before it was ASSLAW). I think “increasingly-“ before fringe and Libertarian would be a more fair characterization. The undergrad program isn’t nearly as far-right-shifting as the law school has been for the past twenty years.

The GMU Jimmy and Roslyn Carter School for Peace and Conflict Resolution begs to differ! The rest of GMU has nothing to do with the law school, but your extreme take on a major well-regarded university gave me a good laugh so thanks for that

Nobody should be responsible unless someone failed their duty when manufacturing the car.

Technology fails all the time, and when it does, sometimes people die. That doesn't mean the new technology X is a scam, or that the question "who will be responsible" is new, or deep, or unsolvable.

Clearly you don't fully comprehend what you're saying.

I'm sick and tired, and don't really have the time to deal with nonsense today. Best be with you.

cant imagine being this disconnected from reality.

touch grass bro

gmu’s law and econ schools are notoriously conservative, the other schools are less extreme

Saying GMU is a “fringe ultra-Libertarian school” that is a “diploma mill from cranks” is actually absurd. Yes the Econ department and Law School have a history of ties to questionable people and organizations but this comment makes it seem the power they have over the entire University is absolute which is not the case. The engineering, science, humanities, and health schools are very left leaning. Its the largest public university in VA with the most diverse student body.

Source: I was a student for 6 years and worked there as an employee for 5 years.

> Clearly you don't fully comprehend what you're saying.

I'm sorry you can't think of any argument. Clicking the block button for you.

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GMU senior here. I am majoring in Computer engineering. You’re getting a lot of back and forth from what I can see in the comments. I haven’t read the book you sourced but I definitely want to check it out.

The main reason why I’m writing this comment is because I wanted to state that one of our course requirements as an engineer was to take an introduction to microeconomics course. I don’t have a problem with this at all, however, this course felt very detached from reality and knowing what I know now about that course and the Professor, I wish I didn’t have to take it or I took it with another professor.

It was highly encouraged that we took it our first semester and many often WORSHIPED this professor claiming the minimum wage should be 0 and that John Rockefeller was not a monopolist. The tests as you kinda state earlier were definitely a “circle this opinion the professor has from the textbook he wrote” kinda questions.

Beyond this single course, as an engineer, I never felt like the information I was receiving was inaccurate or outdated or misleading but I can definitely see from that course alone that there were definitely professors on campus that would have the capability to create these nuts courses with very little repercussions.

Finally, I wanted to say that there are most definitely left leaning professors all over campus and in fact, I’d bet they make up the majority of staff here. In fact, I took an honors course at one point with a professor who was a Marxist scholar and had similar feelings as stated earlier about extreme opinions disrupted the encouragement of debate in a sensible ways. These professors are few and far between and can almost always be avoided. If you have any questions, please DM or reply to me.

I think the question is who pays for insurance. For self driving cars the onus should be on the manufacturer while if you’re driving you’re paying.

The essay written by AI contains gibberish as the responses correctly point out. And it's a marginal pass, which was being generous given that the essay was an opinion without referencing economic theory.

It isn’t the largest in Virginia… That goes to Northern Virginia Community College.

I fear, it just doesn't work the other way around. You cannot regulate something that before it comes out.

Thats the point.