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TheOakenToken t1_j6c5pd8 wrote

What are you talking about?

This post reads like a fever dream.

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Rangermatthias t1_j6c6j32 wrote

Right!?

OP, it might help us offer advice if you included some actual details of what AI inspired drama is bothering you.

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Sahalynsk t1_j6c6ipb wrote

AI is taking over most jobs, it keeps expanding day by day and getting smarter. At one point it will be smarter than humans and will be able to do almost anything we can do, possibly even a point where it feeds off itself and gets smarter without the need of humans, leaving us as an obstacle, want a specific video? Generate it. Specific Music? Generate it. Specific art? Go ahead. And since services like ChatGPT can practically act like people and they keep on becoming more human, when will we get to a point where you won't know when someone's real or just AI in a human suit? People with power will be able to just get in contact to make AI specifically built for anything they desire, including AI that can kill. You won't really have freedom to yourself since either way you're always being tracked, monitored and listened to by the tech around you, mostly everything is going to be digital. And at that point humanity will just downfall.

That's just my personal opinion, by all means I've had this in my mind for a while so if you can answer this in a way for me to not imagine it eventually causing a doomsday scenario then be my guest

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TheOakenToken t1_j6c78hb wrote

You're freaking out over nothing. The computing power required to "replace" or "eliminate" humanity would be astronomically big, our AI isn't even smart enough to draw pictures without needing lots of guidance and help from a human.

AI is just another tool for humans to use, it's going to take over all the things we don't want to do, like manage our lives and the delicate systems that are growing to dominate it, freeing us up to do the things we want to do instead of be obligated to toil doing menial labor.

Look at Star Trek, the utopia we're all hoping we're heading towards. The AI isn't taking over or crippling society, it's a tool that people use to take care of the tedious parts of living so that they can do what they enjoy. Cisco's father ran and owned a restaurant, why? Because he wanted to. His son is a bestselling author, why? Because he wanted to. Picard went on to own a winery producing delicious wine, why? Because he wanted to.

Yes, the AI can make your meal, or write your holosuite program, or materialize your wine, but the hand, passion, and skill of a person will always give it something more even if it's just intrinsic.

Especially in a post capital, post labor society, AI is simply a tool that allows us to bridge that gap.

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madvanillin t1_j6c90o3 wrote

ASI cannot and will not be a tool. Compared to even an early ASI, the average human will have the intelligence of an ant compared to Einstein. The idea of a group of ants controlling a human being and using him as a tool to serve their interests is abhorrent.

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Gilamath t1_j6c99c3 wrote

How bout the idea of a group of gut bacteria controlling a human being and using that being as a tool to serve their interests?

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madvanillin t1_j6c9cbi wrote

Also not my ideal, conceptually. But if it's the only way to get neurons to work on our level, ok.

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Gilamath t1_j6cagom wrote

It's a nice situation for the bacteria, though, right?

If these crazy AI horror stories, dreamt up by a species whose brains have been specifically adapted for pattern recognition and finding possible things to be afraid of regardless of how rational they are, turn out to be true and there really is a monster under the bed this time, based on everything we're quite likely to end up in the enviable position of being nurtured as gut bacteria by these AI overlords

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madvanillin t1_j6cascs wrote

https://old.reddit.com/r/ArtificialInteligence/comments/10hpdne/i_believe_the_coming_super_agi_whenever_it_comes/

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Gilamath t1_j6cjexq wrote

Nietzsche would have quite a lot to say about his being called a prophet of all things, none of them particularly flattering. Nor, now that I think of it, would he be particularly sympathetic towards the sentiments of people afraid of all-powerful super AIs

For what it's worth, my gut bacteria would likely not agree with the idea that I am the Overman and them mere Undermen. I look forward with glee to the day when my AI toils to build for me a house within its belly for me to feed on it and command it to feed ever more for me. But I will have to be careful, because humanity has let itself feed on the land far too poorly. Maybe I'll give the AI a stomachache every so often just to make sure it doesn't get out of hand

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Codydw12 t1_j6c7x8u wrote

> AI is taking over most jobs, it keeps expanding day by day and getting smarter.

Yes, same with every other area of technology.

> At one point it will be smarter than humans and will be able to do almost anything we can do

What's with the assumption that all AI is the same piece of AI? It's like saying all of humanity is one mind itself which just isn't true. How's the private AI developed in Denmark supposed to just somehow agree with the government made Japanese AI on everything?

> possibly even a point where it feeds off itself and gets smarter without the need of humans, leaving us as an obstacle

How would we just suddenly become an obstacle to an AI let alone all of them all at once? It's made by a bad faith actor or rouge state? We're already dealing with bad faith actors and rouge states without AI. It'll just be another thing to pile on for counterintelligence and operations.

> want a specific video? Generate it. Specific Music? Generate it. Specific art? Go ahead

Why would an AI make art unless told to? If an AI is advanced enough to make art of its own volition and can justify it by saying "I made art because it represents this thing important to me" or "I made it because I wanted to make it for myself" I'm willing to say it's no longer just AI and is now a person.

> And since services like ChatGPT can practically act like people and they keep on becoming more human, when will we get to a point where you won't know when someone's real or just AI in a human suit?

And? If I spend some 20 years treating an AI like my child, programming it, installing a sense of ethics, teaching it how to critically think for itself instead of just what to think and it can act as its own person how is that different from raising flesh and blood? Is that person less real for being steel and fiber optics instead?

> People with power will be able to just get in contact to make AI specifically built for anything they desire, including AI that can kill.

As opposed to just hiring someone to do it or making some trumped up allegation or an outright fabrication to murder whom they damn well please because they felt it. Say how's the protests in Memphis going?

> You won't really have freedom to yourself since either way you're always being tracked, monitored and listened to by the tech around you, mostly everything is going to be digital. And at that point humanity will just downfall.

I assume you're American so the government has your SSID, address, place of work, income information, registrations, insurances, phone data, et, al. So we're not only already there but have been for a while.

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Nickjet45 t1_j6c8ksu wrote

Humans make innovations to make their lives easier.

AI is no exception.

Electric light? Don’t wanna keep refilling lamps

Cotton gin? A lot easier to separate cotton vs. by hand

Let the list go on

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in_finite_jest t1_j6c9a8a wrote

I'm an artist and AI art is the most important invention since photoshop, maybe since the camera. I've trained an AI model on my style and have been workshopping it by combining it with different artists. The results are absolutely astounding and inspiring. A few of my friends in the art community say they're getting more ideas than they have in years. One already started a new series based on the art she generated. The only negative thing about AI is the hassle of having to explain how diffusion AI learns and how fair use works to the people screaming about IP theft.

You need to stop imagining all these crazy slippery slope fallacies and see AI as it is today -- a personal assistant. ChatGPT can automate all the boring parts of writing for me so that I am free to focus on the creative parts. AI art engines not only generate ideas but can make me underpaintings or figure references so that I could breeze through the parts I don't like to get to the good stuff. But you're worried about some sci-fi level stuff where a neural net is somehow sentient and evil? Come on. AI isn't going to kill anyone, how would that even work? If you're worried about people monitoring you, there are plenty of anonymizing tools for that.

You've just gotten a virtual assistant who is only bound by your imagination and you're afraid of it. Try learning more about this technology and how it works, that should make it less terrifying.

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