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WinterMudo t1_j6jmnkn wrote

Sure, but when crops start to fail can we eat these delicious minerals?

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Surur OP t1_j6joutj wrote

It's called precision fermentation and it tastes like chicken, though we can't really be sure of that.

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VitaminPb t1_j6jz269 wrote

Have you ever noticed everything tastes like chicken? Maybe that’s because the machines don’t know what they tasted like so they make it all taste the same.

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PortsFarmer t1_j6jyrvk wrote

That's funny because humans are actually a great source of rare-earth elements, particularly in regions where they are abundant in the soil, as we tend to accumulate them over a lifetime and they serve little biological function.

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WinterMudo t1_j6jzdvp wrote

So you are saying we can eat the rich and process the leftovers for rare earth elements? Sounds like a win win to me

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Safe_Indication_6829 t1_j6kz6w6 wrote

Oh wow. So does that mean I can sell my dead body for profit? Can I extract them from myself while alive?

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Grand-Mix-870 t1_j6k93pk wrote

Vertical farming, cricket flour, worm castings and cricket frass as fertilizer, hydroponic so no soil and only water needed and it's recycled, eliminate flood style watering and replace with drip irrigation for tree fruits and nuts. Solar flex windows on farm buildings to power grow lighting and pumps.

Allow nature to reclaim vast expanses of farmland over time and reestablish the Biodiversity hundreds of years of farming and pesticides has destroyed.

Dramatically reduce the beef, pork, poultry industry in order to reduce water consumption and slow the destruction of rainforests and other biomes in order to create pastureland. (I am not a vegetarian)

Promote alternative meats with creative marketing to reduce social stigmas.

STOP FUCKING PROMOTING "WILD CAUGHT FISH" as a goddamn marketing tool and only sell farm raised. Change the wording to "LOCALLY HARVESTED" and let the oceans rebuild.

Pigeons, rodents, insects. "Wild trapped game bird," pigeon is delicious. It's all dark meat and pest companies killing millions and dumping them in the trash. As an example I worked for a pest management company in Seattle. On one single building downtown I had 4 live catch traps, emptied every other day. I removed 15-30 per trap every service. All year long. I alone had over 70 traps placed with similar numbers. This does not include the other 2 people who worked bird jobs.

Seagulls are also a viable source of meat that tastes delicious and are easy to trap. Seagulls will enter a cage with a yellow ribbon in it and a mirror.

Mice. Hell yes, mice. Ground Mickey meat. Mice don't require a water source for up to 4 weeks as they extract water from their food. They reach maturity between 4-7 weeks and reproduce every 19 days up to 20 pups. A lactating female ray can raise up to 35 mice at a time. So upon weaning, mice can reach maturity with minimal water and feed prior to being harvested.

Roaches. They are everywhere. I'd change the name from cockroach to baconbug though. Then use them for protein, flour, literally anything.

This got too long. Lots of options. Post history has info on crickets vs wheat.

And your celiac would be unaffected as crickets are gluten free.

GMO is not bad. Modified crops have provided food for millions of people by adapting plants to survive colder temperatures and higher elevations. Its a good thing.

When you choose a mate you are choosing attributes you like and would like to see in your offspring. A genetically modified / combination of the two of you.

Do you think there have always been hundreds of varieties of every fruit? Or do you think adaptation/evolution/hybridization over time gives us so many goddamn tomatoes?

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ItsAConspiracy t1_j6kqcnu wrote

Selling just farm-raised fish doesn't do it. A lot of them are fed smaller fish that was wild-caught. Sardines in some areas are overfished for this exact reason. On the other hand Alaska salmon is all wild-caught and they limit the catch enough to keep the population sustainable (though there's not near enough to meet the global demand for salmon that way).

Catfish farming in the US is great, and same for mollusks.

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Grand-Mix-870 t1_j6lld7f wrote

Upvoted because you make valid points.

However, fish don't have to fed other fish. Once again, there might be a solution in the mass farming of insects and worms.

I am not a biologist, but I have been fishing. The species I was after seemed to really enjoy creepy crawlers.

I'm almost positive we could make fish flake out of hard shelled insects.

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guave06 t1_j6kfoza wrote

I’m not eating cockroaches no matter what and I sure as hell hope my descendants don’t have to resort to that.

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Grand-Mix-870 t1_j6lncn4 wrote

If you eat bread or anything with flour you are eating roaches/flour beetles/grain beetles/meal moths/and more. They are ground up (milled) bleached, and shipped.

Most mills fumigate their facility twice a year. Some of them are over 100 years old and still have wooden parts.

You're already eating them. You're just ignorant to it.

Every insect type has a maximum number of heads/parts/eggs allowed per kg of packaged product. It is not just concentration of insect contamination.

For example you can have up to 33 drosophila eggs, 88 heads, and a percentage of parts I currently don't recall per kg of raisins. Since the eggs are fumigated they are food safe as they will not hatch. That is one species. There are similar numbers per pest.

That being said, a single rodent striated hair will fail an entire pallet. That pallet gets opened and redistributed to the line and repackaged, just like the product shoveled off the floor.

Your food is clean and safe. Obviously. You've been eating it a long time. Being grossed out about eating bugs is just silky since you've been doing it your whole life.

Technically, you have a bunch living in your eyebrows and pores.

Buy a usb microscope and look!

If you really want a treat use it to look at your tap water!

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guave06 t1_j6o2feq wrote

Lol I’m not freaking out about some cross contamination. Chewing into a cockroach corpse is just out of the question for me but to each their own

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Fuzzycolombo t1_j6nfaho wrote

Very unique ideas, but unless faced with actual starvation, there is no way the masses will accept eating crickets and roaches as opposed to the continuation of animal farming.

Seriously, how do you propose to have people change lifelong behaviors and attitudes towards cows/chickens/insects in order to have people eat bugs instead of cows?

Poultry also have the lowest footprint of all the animals we typically consume. It would be far easier and net positive to have people consume more birds and lower cows and pigs then to switch people over to roaches and crickets.

Lastly, by and far, energy for industry generated through coal plants is the biggest contributor to climate change. Tackling that makes the biggest dent.

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Grand-Mix-870 t1_j6on9t2 wrote

I am not disagreeing with you nor am I claiming to have a diagram for actionable change. I just feel the possibility is there and now seems like a time where it might be viable.

The masses are more susceptible to influence from exterior sources than ever. Social media has given rise to megaphones on even the stupidest mouths.

Utilize this for positive change as opposed to criticizing its existence.

If a pussy scented candle can gain traction through "goop", better choices for food can become a hot trend too.

Crickets taste better than Kale.

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HoneydewInMyAss t1_j6muolg wrote

Lol, rich people will pay to do/eat awful things BECAUSE they're awful.

Like when they pay to hunt wild elephants, or buy blood diamonds even though lab-made diamonds are actually stronger and more pure.

Wealthy people feel entitled to do awful things. It's a disgusting mindset, but we have a disgusting system.

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