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Orc_ t1_j58qb6j wrote

Reply to comment by kfractal in Google to relax AI safety rules to compete with OpenAI by Surur

You should see the moral barriers to technology of an open and egalitarian society without capitalism (spoilers: there would be none).

The only thing holding Google back was fear of legal consequences, now that OpenAI has "paved a way" they can watch out for risks more closely.

Under communism, communalism or anarchism AI would have no moral barriers. In fact crypto-anarchism online is really hard to setup because as soon as they put up decentralized "shops" or forums they get full cp so the creators have to dial back and centralize their system yet again just to stop that. Rinse and repeat.

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StupidBrotherInLaw t1_j59mh7k wrote

You really don't know anything at all about communism, do you?

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Orc_ t1_j5adgqz wrote

What is you definition of communism?

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Orc_ t1_j5ad6m7 wrote

I do I've studied it a lot Recently I've been reading Kropotkin and that's basically one of the only authors I have left I've gone through 72 books on it for around 8 years. Basically it falls under the umbrella un anarchist systems where nothing can be centralized, pretty much all technology said society would create would be open-source.

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TheShishkabob t1_j5aq6lo wrote

You've studied "a lot" but never realized that laws still exist under communism? You're attributing the very concept of a legal system with capitalism for some reason but in reality the two are not the same at all.

Anyone saying that "nothing can be centralized" under fucking communism doesn't know the first thing about it.

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Orc_ t1_j5az2i0 wrote

No, I attributed an actual effective legal system with the concept of the state, not to capitalism. Same thing happens with resources, i.e. The Tragedy of The Commons.

I think you don't understand how centralization is not communistic as it takes power away from the people and into a few hands, that's just a government, dude...

You really think under anarchism only a small group of people can work and develope AI under a closed-source?

Communism isn't when free food and nothing else.

It's about all aspects of life, information and developement. When everybody owns all tech they all have access to it.

You seem to have encounted a problem with your own system, that's not my problem, you go ahead and talk yourself out of this one, but you can't, one way or the other you gonna end up with something that looks like a state and congratulations you just screwed it up yet again.

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