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chopchopped OP t1_j9vi41c wrote
> Sigh, again with the pointless usage of hydrogen. This is far less efficient than solar panels and battery storage. Why lose 3x efficiency just to do the hydrogen- fuel cell - electricity conversion when you can just go solar to battery in one shot
Said the Tesla fan (check this posters history). Of course if you're invested in batteries you'll slam any "competition".
Not everyone has been hoodwinked. Here's proof
> > Guangzhou Sets Out Plan for USD1.4 Billion Fuel Cell Vehicle Industry by 2025. The city aims to establish itself as a leading domestic development and manufacturing hub for FCVs, covering the whole industry chain from core parts to vehicle assembly LINK
How much TSLA do you own?
Kaindlbf t1_j9w5pbb wrote
Not a fanboy statement just a fact. This guy has 90kw of solar panels and spent $500,000 to set it up with $400,000 from a government grant. This is not practical or useful for normal citizens.
A normal household with battery + solar panels only really needs a 10-30kw solar system for fully off grid including charging an electric car.
If you get 28 kw of battery storage + 20kw of solar panels it would cost you around $40-50k to install in Australia. In USD that would be around $30,000.
Ohh and then you have maintenance costs for fuel cells and electrolysers and storage tanks etc that obviously aren't free and could end up costing a fair bit while solar panels and batteries last 15-25 years and maintenance free.
This BS "Building the future" on hydrogen is just a waste of government and citizen money and will never be practical for normal households.
Also notice that all hydrogen plans are always based on government funding and can't ever stand on their own business models. Products and pricing were never compelling and even with decades head start fell behind solar+Battery and Evs instantly.
chopchopped OP t1_j9weaui wrote
> Not a fanboy statement just a fact.
Says the Tesla Fan Boy
https://i.imgur.com/MTfbCI8.jpg
You're not going to get any hydrogen facts hanging around any Tesla sub. But you aren't really interested in facts, are you.
Watch what happens in a place you'll never read about on /r/teslamotors or r/electricvehicles - where any talk of H2 FCV's is prohibited - lol.
chopchopped OP t1_j9gz0hw wrote
SS- A New Jersey Resident built a solar hydrogen home in 2006, which was the subject of a Scientific American article called "Inside the Solar-Hydrogen House: No More Power Bills--Ever" https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hydrogen-house/ - great to see others integrating this tech - 17 years later.
http://hydrogenhouseproject.org
Edit: Apparently Mike's website is temporarily unavailable [...] - here's an archive view
http://web.archive.org/web/20220202063706/https://www.hydrogenhouseproject.org/index.html
FuturologyBot t1_j9h2ygc wrote
The following submission statement was provided by /u/chopchopped:
SS- A New Jersey Resident built a solar hydrogen home in 2006, which was the subject of a Scientific American article called "Inside the Solar-Hydrogen House: No More Power Bills--Ever" https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hydrogen-house/ - great to see others integrating this tech - 17 years later.
http://hydrogenhouseproject.org
Edit: Apparently Mike's website is temporarily unavailable [...] - here's an archive view
http://web.archive.org/web/20220202063706/https://www.hydrogenhouseproject.org/index.html
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Kaindlbf t1_j9hgp26 wrote
Sigh, again with the pointless usage of hydrogen. This is far less efficient than solar panels and battery storage. Why lose 3x efficiency just to do the hydrogen- fuel cell - electricity conversion when you can just go solar to battery in one shot.
Article title should be renamed to: “How to need 3x more solar panels to power a house with hydrogen storage”.