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tyco_brahe t1_jadaekw wrote

Oh lord. Another timezone for me to manage. Will they also have daylight savings time?

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goodfaithtreaty OP t1_jad7po9 wrote

The idea of Moon standard time would help with the idea of Moonlight, which is an ESA satellite constellation that could provide positioning, communication, and navigation data to astronauts on the lunar surface. The problem now is that different missions to the Moon have all used a different clock, even if it was standardized to Earth time and corrected for gravitational drifts in time. Now, with more missions than ever planned to work on the Moon—many of which will overlap and need to communicate with each other—a standard Moon time is crucial.

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FuturologyBot t1_jada4bx wrote

The following submission statement was provided by /u/goodfaithtreaty:

The idea of Moon standard time would help with the idea of Moonlight, which is an ESA satellite constellation that could provide positioning, communication, and navigation data to astronauts on the lunar surface. The problem now is that different missions to the Moon have all used a different clock, even if it was standardized to Earth time and corrected for gravitational drifts in time. Now, with more missions than ever planned to work on the Moon—many of which will overlap and need to communicate with each other—a standard Moon time is crucial.

Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/11ecc53/we_need_moon_standard_time/jad7po9/

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ImmotalWombat t1_jadewiz wrote

You mean months? That's what they originally measured.

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InGenAche t1_jadkoj1 wrote

The moon farmers will confuse the issue by demanding daylight saving!

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timetravel_inc t1_jadl26q wrote

Honest question: why?

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Codydw12 t1_jadqhe0 wrote

> Moonlight needs a common lunar reference time in order to provide accurate location data to users on the Moon’s surface. In order to keep time on different lunar missions in the past, each mission synchronized its clocks with those on Earth and used antennas in space to correct from drifts in time. ESA says this solution will prove inadequate as space agencies plan to send more humans and autonomous rovers than ever to the Moon. These different teams may need to communicate with each other, rendezvous, or conduct joint observations, and a standardized clock could smooth out issues in that regard.

That good enough a reasoning?

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timetravel_inc t1_jadswq4 wrote

Yes, I get that. Sorry for my sarcasm, but I have been told since the late summer of 1980 that humans going to the moon again is just about 5 years in the future. I have simply just stopped being excited about “ZOMG, we need a lunar timezone because humans will return to the moon any day now”.

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Codydw12 t1_jadz3du wrote

And I can understand the apprehension after decades of being told it's happening only to never happen. But given the Artemis Program plans on having people back on the moon as well as a lunar base by decades end (might have timeline off) I think writing everything off as more hopium is pointlessly pessimistic particuarly seeing as other nations are ramping up their own space programs and the interest driven by private groups.

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timetravel_inc t1_jae1luc wrote

Right, and Musk will put humans on Mars in 2024 2027 2029…

Edit: Sorry, I will stop now. I am just a disillusioned astronomer

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Codydw12 t1_jae3z3p wrote

If you actually think Musk is going to do anything other than justify his position as the Worlds Most Annoying Shithead I've got some oceanfront property in Montana to sell you. The private space companies are making small developments woth technologies such as reusable rockets, yes, but overwhelming the major programs that actually intend to put people on the moon by decades end are government.

Once again per my previous comment, Artemis 3 is a manned mission planned for landing in 2025. 4 is planned for 2027 and all the way up to 8 are planned to bring more and more people and infrastructure up there. And that's just NASA, you should look at your own Heracles program.

So what would you prefer? We all just give up on space?

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chill633 t1_jaeolma wrote

Honest follow-up: What's wrong with UTC?

At the tone the time will be 21 hours and 56 minutes Coordinated Universal Time.

BEEEEEP

Tick, tick, tick, tick...

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Embarrassed_Shoe_531 t1_jaexelw wrote

How about just global time and forget this timezone and DST BS?

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