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zushiba t1_j8j1fbd wrote

Aliens also hypothetically use ice planets as giant freezers. They'll just throw a bunch of food onto the surface and let it freeze there until they need it later.

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IvanAfterAll t1_j8jpjdn wrote

Gas giants are just stored alien farts. Their planets smell perfect all the time.

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zushiba t1_j8jpwq2 wrote

This tracks with everything that I know about space.

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chromium2439 t1_j8kx5cg wrote

No no no those are their gas stations.

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IvanAfterAll t1_j8lc0ku wrote

Why not both? Store the farts, use them later as fuel. Incredible efficiency.

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itsfunhavingfun t1_j8jh63l wrote

Get out. Next you’ll be saying they hypothetically use stars to reheat their frozen corn dogs.

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zushiba t1_j8jhije wrote

No that would be silly. They use the area just before the event horizon of a black hole because they can send the corn dog around and get it back nice and hot just before they sent it.

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theNorrah t1_j8kc742 wrote

That’s inefficient. Just go to a plant where x grows naturally, like beer bootle trees etc.

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Jaded_Prompt_15 t1_j8hwhgz wrote

Article:

>Hypothetical advanced life that we have zero evidence exists might hypothetically do this

Headline:

>Aliens might do this!

It's just a clickbait headline

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kittykatkin t1_j8i78bl wrote

Aliens use this one simple trick.

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WildGrem7 t1_j8kl059 wrote

Alien casinos hate it when you do this but they can’t stop you!

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leaky_wand t1_j8korpm wrote

But the science itself sounds interesting. It seems counterintuitive that a black hole could store information or be useful for computation. Can anyone eli5?

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Iffykindofguy t1_j8hz99z wrote

I thank the universe I grew out of my "jaded" phase

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Gari_305 OP t1_j8hxrc8 wrote

I doubt it's click bait if there's an actual study that says the same thing.

I understand your hesitation, however, why do a click bait with an attached study?

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Jaded_Prompt_15 t1_j8hy1jd wrote

The study says black holes could hypothetically be used like this.

The headline implies aliens exist and might be doing this.

Which is why the headline is clickbait.

>why do a click bait with an attached study?

So people click it...

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OakenGreen t1_j8jfnfe wrote

I don’t think anyone’s gonna read the headline and think “oh my, not only did they discover aliens but the first they’re telling us is how their computers work before announcing the discovery of said aliens… Neato!”

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wwiinndyy t1_j8k9le7 wrote

This is dumb. Everyone knows that we aren't sure if alien life exists, and no part of the title is claiming to have discovered them. You guys should really look at context

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Gari_305 OP t1_j8hyi2c wrote

Actual headline in thestudy attached

>Black holes as tools for quantum computing by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations

Actual headline

> Aliens May Be Using Black Holes as Quantum Computers

They're both one in the same, not so much click baity there

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Jaded_Prompt_15 t1_j8i1bwu wrote

If you think either of those means aliens exist...

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TrekForce t1_j8icqsb wrote

I don’t think either of them imply aliens definitely exist. I think both are basically saying “If aliens exist, they could use black holes as quantum computers”.

One sounds sciency and the other sounds more standard English.

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mi2h_N0t-r34l_ t1_j8ia4rg wrote

That would never make a difference to me.

Seems reminiscent of the "threads of fate" from "Wanted" (the movie where they curve bullets).

I am hesitant, however, to call the notion outright ridiculous...

My personal take on the theoretical utility of black holes? Blast 'em - find a means of destroying or destabilizing them - there's probably gold in them there black holes...

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HarlanCulpepper t1_j8i2r4n wrote

They 'might' be using them as an inter-dimensional slip and slide.

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Gilded-Mongoose t1_j8lwj0q wrote

They “might” be using them as an inter dimensional flashlight too.

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RockstarAgent t1_j8lxfsq wrote

Or fleshlights too

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Gilded-Mongoose t1_j8lz4wd wrote

Dammit that’s what I meant. Please don’t think of me as being as wholesome to have naught but flashlights on my mind. I beg thee.

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Lazaruzo t1_j8iacxl wrote

Can’t even prove aliens exist but we’re theorizing about their computing processes?!! Goddamn! This belongs in /r/jokes

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DeepSpaceNebulae t1_j8jcv9b wrote

It’s just theorizing about what would something we could detect were it out there. Coming up with something that would be theoretically possible and how we’d be able to detect it were it out there

Gotta theorize about one to detect the other… and gotta get clicks with outrageous titles

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momolamomo t1_j8kdd1c wrote

Theorising about alien processing systems removes human/earth bias and CAN/MAY allow us to approach how we process data and computations.

Look at how the quantum computer can about. We started by ourselves what if the entire internet could be stored in a grain of salt but we’ve been busy mucking around with silicone and binary states.

Everything that processes today is based on the premise of Morse code. We just advanced the shit out of it

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Ambrosed t1_j8id6hv wrote

Why bother with aliens? How about we use black holes for this purpose? Let’s be the advanced civilization that makes it happen.

Bonus points for not getting our solar system crushed into a singularity.

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Bloorajah t1_j8ilahp wrote

Saying “advanced aliens could do this” is basically just a science “gotcha” headline to get people to publicize their article about how we could eventually do this.

if you wrote a paper that said that humans could do this in the future it would be just as accurate but probably wouldn’t show up in a social feed.

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wwiinndyy t1_j8k9wxk wrote

They just figure we'll nuke ourselves back to the stone age before we get around to blackhole supercomputers

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Psychological-Sport1 t1_j8knn4t wrote

Ironically we financed the development of supercomputers so as to make better thermonuclear hydrogen bombs and their delivery systems

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karma-armageddon t1_j8isueb wrote

I already do. I decide what answer I want, and reference a* as the source of my answer.

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magicMikeeee95 t1_j8j0xha wrote

Turtles also might be assembling handguns in a hollow island near the Equator, but I didn't write an article about it for some reason

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IvanAfterAll t1_j8jpsmr wrote

That's an extremely alarming prospect. I hope you will expound.

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magicMikeeee95 t1_j8jra1r wrote

"ARMAMENT EXPERTS AGREE: POTENTIAL SUBTERRANEAN TERRAPIN ATTACK POSSIBLE, TURTLES MAY BE STOCKPILING HUMAN WEAPONS"

The body would go here, but when I went to use the theoretical room of monkeys banging on keyboards, ScienceAlert and TMZ had it booked solid for months.

And for my source, let's go ahead and assume that I can convince a minimum of two r/NonCredibleDefense dwellers that some turtles can indeed field assemble certain brands of handgun.

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IvanAfterAll t1_j8jukw1 wrote

ChatAI to the rescue:

Title: Unusual Weapon Assembly Activity Observed in a Population of Turtles on a Hollow Island

Authors: Dr. Mei Ling Wong, Department of Zoology, University of Singapore; Dr. Thomas Anderson, Division of Ecology and Evolution, University of California, Berkeley

Abstract: In this study, we report the discovery of a population of turtles living in a previously unknown hollow island located near the equator. Our research team utilized satellite imaging to identify the island, and upon closer inspection, discovered that the interior of the island was hollow and occupied by a large number of turtles.

During our observations, we noticed that the turtles were engaging in an unusual activity: assembling handguns. We collected samples of these weapons and conducted a thorough analysis of their components and construction.

Our findings indicate that the turtles are capable of assembling functional handguns using raw materials and tools that they appear to have acquired through unknown means. The purpose of these weapons is currently unknown and requires further investigation.

This discovery raises important questions about the capacity of non-human species to engage in complex behaviors and raises concerns about the potential threats posed by these activities. Further research is needed to better understand the origins and implications of this behavior.

We urge all relevant government agencies and organizations to take this discovery seriously and to take appropriate measures to address any potential threats to national security.

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magicMikeeee95 t1_j8jup0b wrote

See now is the kind of stellar work I expected from AI

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IvanAfterAll t1_j8juubc wrote

Compelling enough that I kind of want a whole fiction series now.

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GromieBooBoo t1_j8jm9t6 wrote

No it’s all actually just one big giant bagel. An everything bagel to be exact.

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choir_of_sirens t1_j8j8pgm wrote

Maybe life is common in the universe but intelligent life (as we define it) is rare, just like here on earth.

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IronSasquatch t1_j8jfi7f wrote

Glad to see I wasn’t the only one to see this post and immediately think “well that’s fucking stupid”.

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[deleted] t1_j8kzyb9 wrote

find out how aliens use this one simple trick to mine UNLIMITED crypto using black hole NFTs.

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Farklurth t1_j8ig1dd wrote

A hypothetical fire eating refrigerator might sing in a Kvarkopillian language when it's drank AF at Guelperaptul's pub.

HyPothEticaLly speaking ;/

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ConeyIslandMan t1_j8j0zhe wrote

Balderdash everyone knows they ride pickled herring vast distances across the cosmos in the blink of an eye to avoid spoilage

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Ub3rGoob3r t1_j8j49ik wrote

Imagine being paid a physicist's salary to come up with this shit.

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KneeDragr t1_j8knzei wrote

They must have been baked out of their fucking mind when they dreamed up this bullshit.

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clearcontroller t1_j8jf9f2 wrote

I think common sense would indicate this is clickbait.

We are significantly behind the point of anything like this being perceivable by us

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WildGrem7 t1_j8klam2 wrote

Do physics undergrads blogging their stream of consciousness after blunt night at alpha sigma kappa reallllly count as physicists? Asking for a friend.

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In-Cod-We-Thrust t1_j8ky4fu wrote

The World News said they’ve been using Uranus as a vpn.

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Tincastle t1_j8lapwp wrote

Is this similar idea to the Transcension Hypothesis?

There is a paper written by John M Smart close to this, where the ultimate form of an advanced civilization is to get smaller and smaller allowing for instantaneous computing power. Being near black holes, or that the civilization itself is the blackhole.

It’s a good read.

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Communications23 t1_j8lhtl0 wrote

In a recent study, random words are arranged into a grammatically correct sentence.

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FuturologyBot t1_j8hzwvi wrote

The following submission statement was provided by /u/Gari_305:

From the Article

>In a recent study, a German-Georgian team of researchers proposed that advanced extraterrestrial civilizations (ETCs) could use black holes as quantum computers.

Also from the article

>The research was conducted by Gia Dvali, a theoretical physicist with the Max Planck Institute for Physics and the physics chair at Ludwig-Maximilians-University in Munich, and Zaza Osmanov, a professor of physics at the Free University of Tbilisi, and a researcher with the Kharadze Georgian National Astrophysical Observatory and the SETI Institute.
>
>The paper that describes their findings recently appeared online and is being reviewed for publication in the International Journal of Astrobiology.

Lastly from the article

>The research was conducted by Gia Dvali, a theoretical physicist with the Max Planck Institute for Physics and the physics chair at Ludwig-Maximilians-University in Munich, and Zaza Osmanov, a professor of physics at the Free University of Tbilisi, and a researcher with the Kharadze Georgian National Astrophysical Observatory and the SETI Institute.
>
>The paper that describes their findings recently appeared online and is being reviewed for publication in the International Journal of Astrobiology.

Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1124pmv/physicists_say_aliens_may_be_using_black_holes_as/j8hvwor/

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whiteajah365 t1_j8j9jdo wrote

We just need to ask the aliens who were downed in Northern Canada and Lake Huron and ask them how they do it.

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Adept-Variation587 t1_j8jla5n wrote

This theory (however absurd it may be) could lead to some analysis of black holes with data and who knows, maybe we discover something different entirely.

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Aculeus_ t1_j8jpajk wrote

Whenever I see an article that says something "may", I always add "or may not" in my head.

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Anxious_Aardvark8714 t1_j8jw8sc wrote

Considering how little we know about the existence of life beyond our own planet, that seems to be wild speculation.

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momolamomo t1_j8kcq8r wrote

It’s a massively outlandish idea. However, can we draw ideas from this?

From what I gather, scientists are tinkering with the validity of the idea that an object in space that was not manufactured can be used to compute.

Can we do this with tree roots? Can we apply this concept within a reachable grasp?

The concept in its raw unadulterated form sounds like something from startrek.

But let’s water it down, can we take advantage of this concept here, on earth?

It’s an interesting concept,

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[deleted] t1_j8kkf1e wrote

I think there's a finite need for computing power so you'd have to be in a situation where you couldn't make the computers just like when your own planet. Personally I don't think it would be necessary or viable.

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AloofPenny t1_j8kkflq wrote

The whole ring around a black hole is just stored data. So this could really be a thing

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Pregogets58466 t1_j8kl2ps wrote

Delusional thinking. Particle and quantum physics can be fun but there are limits to a human brain

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Feine13 t1_j8ko0wp wrote

Do we think adolescent aliens still complain to their parents that their sibling is hogging all the computer time?

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moonpotatofries t1_j8l0pw7 wrote

We’ve sent the humans three care packages and they’ve shot them all down!

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JustYourAvgJester t1_j8lc9r0 wrote

Im betting trash cans. I can't see anyone playing Crysis 13 on a wormhole computer.

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Wdrussell1 t1_j8m9fzq wrote

I mean, I can see how this could be possible. Not the tech specifically but the idea. Black holes are super unpredictable to us right now but with the right tools you could likely modify this and get it to do simple calculations. But then further the tech and get actual computing out of the things.

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JakeBeezy t1_j8mklru wrote

For anybody interested in this topic a YouTuber who goes deep into theoretical stuff exactly like this. YouTube handle is Isaac Arthur

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Insane_Artist t1_j8msqqj wrote

I imagine the conversation went like this -

Physicists: "There is no credible evidence for extra-terrestrial life."

Science Journalist: "Could aliens be among us and they are just undetectable?"

Physicists: "Psh. I mean if you are going to say that then you might as well say that invisible gnomes are using moonbeams to make chutney. Hell, for all we know aliens could be using black holes as quantum computers."

Science Journalist: ...

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Peesha_Deel t1_j8q0hq1 wrote

At this point, I'm pretty sure 'Physicists' are just making shit up.

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Anindefensiblefart t1_j8qqj0g wrote

"Abraham Lincoln might have butt fucked your great great grandma." - historian

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Sinistrahd t1_j8rulro wrote

Breaking News: Physicists Read Too Much Larry Niven

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Albertsongman t1_j8ijdcr wrote

Interesting. … Black holes are a bevy of information. Makes sense.

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lrrc49 t1_j8ifhwb wrote

sometimes I think physicists are just science fiction writing wannabes.

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MadNhater t1_j8iwlc4 wrote

They are social media influencers. Look at all of you sharing and talking about it. Got’em!

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outragedUSAcitizen t1_j8j2skt wrote

Tell me what the objects were in the sky that we shot down before you get to this...

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Z3r0sama2017 t1_j8i1snr wrote

I'm sorry "scientists" but your not going to be allowed to mess about trying to create microsingularities to test this "theory". The risk of solar system get nommed is to great to risk. Do something less risky.

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Gari_305 OP t1_j8hvwor wrote

From the Article

>In a recent study, a German-Georgian team of researchers proposed that advanced extraterrestrial civilizations (ETCs) could use black holes as quantum computers.

Also from the article

>The research was conducted by Gia Dvali, a theoretical physicist with the Max Planck Institute for Physics and the physics chair at Ludwig-Maximilians-University in Munich, and Zaza Osmanov, a professor of physics at the Free University of Tbilisi, and a researcher with the Kharadze Georgian National Astrophysical Observatory and the SETI Institute.
>
>The paper that describes their findings recently appeared online and is being reviewed for publication in the International Journal of Astrobiology.

Lastly from the article

>The research was conducted by Gia Dvali, a theoretical physicist with the Max Planck Institute for Physics and the physics chair at Ludwig-Maximilians-University in Munich, and Zaza Osmanov, a professor of physics at the Free University of Tbilisi, and a researcher with the Kharadze Georgian National Astrophysical Observatory and the SETI Institute.
>
>The paper that describes their findings recently appeared online and is being reviewed for publication in the International Journal of Astrobiology.

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bootstrapping_lad t1_j8k02jq wrote

You quoted the same paragraph twice, and none of your quotes actually explain their idea. They just describe the authors and state that they wrote a paper. Are you a bot?

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