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s3ldom t1_iqml8zl wrote

A company I worked for long ago paid for several of us, in sales/biz dev related roles, to attend one of these seminars.

For the first 30-40 minutes, you could see that Zig was building the audience up for his big "reveal" of how to be successful, etc.

I went along with his hokey mannerisms and outdated vernacular in hopes that there was something useful to be gained here, some way that I could find a kennel of knowledge to do better in my job.

Well, turns out that you just need to do what the bible says and you will be successful. His whole pitch was "be a good Christian" and success will follow.

I got up and walked out at that point. There was probably another 45 minutes to go and I was just so pissed that I had wasted time on that bs, because the job was difficult and I was working 100% commission and really was hoping to gain an edge. Worst presentation ever.

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herbertfilby t1_iqn8obx wrote

If you were being a good Christian, you would have genuflected on the way out lol

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vpeshitclothing t1_iqpzczs wrote

TIL:

Genuflect:

  • lower one's body briefly by bending one knee to the ground, typically in worship or as a sign of respect.

"she genuflected and crossed herself"

  • show deference or servility.

"her party still genuflects to her, and a core within it reflexively venerates her"

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CaptainTripps82 t1_iqop1yj wrote

Reminds me of Clement Stone or whatever, positive mental attitude. Job I had selling insurance was big on pushing his rhetoric.

On the one hand, it's good simple advice, on the other the following is cultish and generally misguided/ borderline exploitative

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krispru1 t1_iqro2a2 wrote

But isn’t it all about the power of positivity? Simple but not simple to do

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PrinceMacai t1_iqouxx8 wrote

Im gunna text her.

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VeloMaster t1_iqpofsw wrote

Absolutely. Unless there is a Court Order telling you not to...

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PrinceMacai t1_iqx4o13 wrote

My lawyer told me to not confirm or deny these allegations…

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vpeshitclothing t1_iqpz7nc wrote

Did you text her?

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quadmasta t1_iqntutm wrote

This guy also endorsed Huckabee for president so maybe take what he says with a grain of salt?

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jfVigor t1_iqo6tgs wrote

Definition of optimism. Ok

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KyeGen t1_iqml0ar wrote

It is much easier being negative, and much tougher being positive every day! But it is ur conviction of positivity much more than ur confidence in being right that makes it worth it!

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Apprehensive-Oil8123 t1_iqm79xy wrote

It's exactly what I need right now!

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asadawan30 t1_iqne2yx wrote

That's great, than now you must do something that you can do in a right way..... Best of luck for that

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Satrialespork t1_iqprbb2 wrote

This guy just looks like hes full of shit

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Optymistyk t1_iqogc8b wrote

Hah, you can't expect me to believe Zig Ziglar is a real name of a real person... I mean, if you're making up stupid names, at least try something more creative. Like Tu Morrow. Or North West.

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cg40boat t1_iqpt5yx wrote

I saw this tool at a corporate sales meeting years ago. He spent half of the time telling us how rich he was because he worked 20 hours a day ( and we could be rich if we followed his advice), then ended by telling us essentially that he wished he hadn't spent so much time working because his wife was sick. Talk about mixed messages.

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sneaky_squirrel t1_iqmqzme wrote

Not relevant to my life as of recently.

Remember to exercise caution and steer clear of accident vectors people.

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drkpaladin246 t1_iqok9kq wrote

In my company. Im the one that always think about what could go wrong. Not that I dont want to be positive about it, but just to be prepare if something does go wrong.

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krispru1 t1_iqroezn wrote

Jack Reacher Hope for the best PrepRe for the worst

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xSypRo t1_iqprngo wrote

I remember reading here a long time ago something along the lines of: “whenever u think ‘what if it goes wrong’ try to forcefully think ‘but if it goes right’ and focus on that”. I started doing it and it really really helps.

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fuckdonaldtrump7 t1_iqpxqz3 wrote

I dont remember this character in boogie nights

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dreamandwrite t1_iqq79mf wrote

What with the owner of the biggest pyramid scheme ever that doesn't motivate me

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dr_reverend t1_iqmsfpr wrote

Are you sure this wasn’t said by Elizabeth Holmes?

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diaspora_pila t1_iqo8tl2 wrote

Hahaha. Another example: you can not eat that, but if you try it in result it might taste good.

Clapton Deniels

^ the quote address to kid breakfast before school.

I'm love such quotes. Absolutely out of real life, but sounds so epic. And everyone can understand meaning by what they exactly want to see

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Artanthos t1_iqp9akl wrote

Worrying about what could go wrong, and doing something about it, is called being prepared.

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PEPSICOLA123456 t1_iqqeynz wrote

Better to lower your expectations cuz then you’re not gonna get hurt if it goes wrong anyway

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Ericknator t1_iqn49lu wrote

Kinda hard when almost always you get the wrong outcome

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krispru1 t1_iqroobn wrote

If you’re still alive you haven’t seen the worst

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zzMacro t1_iqp9v9x wrote

I'm going to a casino!

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st3llablu3 t1_iqpjqtn wrote

I went to a Ziglar seminar a long time ago. After the seminar I was hanging around with my boss, who said he knew Zig. Introductions were made and after a short time I was alone with this icon. We get to just bullshitting around and he asked me if I knew a good pawnshop nearby. My stepfather owned a pawnshop so I said yes I do. I drove Zig to my stepfather’s pawnshop so Ziglar could pawn his watch. Zig lived in Texas at the time, so I’m guessing he never returned for his watch.

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Pudding_Hero t1_iqpuz3e wrote

And with respect. Who the fuck are you?

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Freedom35plan t1_iqpbcjz wrote

Common misquote, it was actually his brother who said this, Zig Zagler.

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Bitter-Ad8728 t1_ir42s4a wrote

Thanks Zig, my powerhouse 5, Zig ziglar, Jim rhon, Brian Tracey, Jim rhon, Les brown, and Jack Canfield, always got me through hard times, and will keep getting me through them, had a few of their books, and will get more of them, but what made me realize was, that I also have to be diligent and prudent in who your collaborators and converser’s are, via your circle group, of friendship, brotherhood and fellowship are, for as, these great men are our men who can guide us to prosperity by applying their disciplines and habits, it is the people who we work with directly that effects us, nothing will beat your Circle group.

But always a breath of fresh air to see these great men, thanks zig.

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