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skedeebs t1_isj80z4 wrote

There is not that much of a connection to making my bed and making the future life I want, but thanks.

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KyeGen t1_isj9y2b wrote

A disciplined life is a routined life, it's what kids soak up from an early age from their parents and teachers. Self discipline is much more difficult because connections and goals must take over from distractions.

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teh_tetra t1_isjkrgx wrote

I'm gonna disagree on the getting out of bed when your alarm goes off and instead say get out of bed when you're supposed to. I purposely wake up half an hour earlier than I need to every day so I can lay in bed and think through my day.

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trogloherb t1_isjn9t0 wrote

Replying to Evipicc (#116,422)

Spoiler alert; it does not. Ive always questioned why “making your bed” is a thing; youre just going to get back into it that night. Sure, I “make it” when I change the sheets, but daily? Nah…

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backwardsbloom t1_isjrwoa wrote

Replying to trogloherb (#116,491)

I was reading a “house making” guide from the 50s once. It suggested that you leave the bed unmade for a while and open the windows. The airflow makes sure the inner sheets completely dry before making the bed. If instead you make the bed immediately, all that sweat from the night before will stay trapped and be less sanitary the next time you use it.

I choose to just let stay unmade and air out all day.

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Curse_of_madness t1_isjsg30 wrote

Making your bed is completely useless and adds nothing to my goals. It's also apparently bad for allergic people.

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PrayingPlatypus t1_isjt8ar wrote

Discipline is cleaning your bong every day.

Discipline is chopping your lines COMPLETELY so you don't ruin the inside of your nose.

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ApertureUnknown t1_isju56v wrote

Replying to Evipicc (#116,422)

"The little things in life matter. If you can't do the little things right, you'll never be able to do the big things right" - This is incredibly accurate and you shouldn't be so quick to disregard it.

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YawnTractor_1756 t1_isjw116 wrote

Replying to skedeebs (#115,755)

There is not much connection between taking a shower and a future you want either, but not taking a shower assures you will never get that future.

It does not have to be making bed specifically, it is just a beaten example from a speech of a wise military guy. In the broader context it means: next to the creative chaos you create in your life when you do something you must spend time to counter it with order, otherwise you will not be able to be productive.

I will put it so that almost every man understood: this is the reason why you want to put your tools back after you worked on something, rather than just leaving them lying around.

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Evipicc t1_isjwbfx wrote

Replying to ApertureUnknown (#116,829)

Hasn't been accurate for me. Being able to not spend 10 minutes making something I'm going to immediately unmake next time I use it and instead using that to read my AC/DC Fundamentals for my Mechatronics Engineering course has proven to be SUBSTANTIALLY more effective at bringing me success recently...

You act like there's NOTHING you could be doing in substitution, and that the person is going to be sitting there staring at a wall because they aren't making their bed. The bed has nothing to do with it, it's being productive with your time.

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Evipicc t1_isjwycv wrote

Replying to xrhstos12lol (#116,920)

Weird to suggest they use reddit... I watched the video, and regardless of who/what he is, he's still one of 8 billion people. I don't give a fuck what he thinks.

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backwardsbloom t1_isjx5gh wrote

Replying to Evipicc (#116,952)

Very true. And as much as I don’t like forced gender roles from that era, being able to afford having 1 person taking care of the home allows a lot of extra care into these things.

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Evipicc t1_isjy0xy wrote

Replying to backwardsbloom (#116,982)

Oh for sure the dynamic of the slaved homemaker isn't great, but there no reason we can't learn from what those people did successfully and efficiently to replicate it now, regardless of your gender!

We stand on the shoulders of those before us, even if they didn't want to carry anyone...

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MijuTheShark t1_isjz2xp wrote

I feel like this would be more accurate if you said, "Action is the bridge between Goal and Accomplishment." Thought and Result. "Discipline," is a much more skewed, contextual way to say, "action," but the implied meaning is disproven all the time.

It's like when you call someone lucky for their circumstances, and they respond with, "LuCk iS wHeN pRePaReDnEsS mEeTs OpPoRtUnItY," in a judgmental, backhanded sort of way so that they can simultaneously take full credit for their blessings while also blaming you for not having them. You then point out that, "Opportunity is a form of luck, so it'd be more accurate to say, 'Success is when luck meets preparedness.'" Despite agreeing that there success requires effort, that there's more to it than just personal agency and they may have to credit exterior forces or circumstances for success, you get to watch the smug slide right into indignation.

Sometimes they'll double down and say they make their own opportunities, which I point out is actually just more preparedness.

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KiniShakenBake t1_isjzfql wrote

Wow. Way to shame ADHD and/or depression that is unrecognized and unmedicated.

Once I got on medication, all these things were totally doable. Before that, this list would be enough to keep me in bed.

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ACuriousBidet t1_isk2bce wrote

Replying to skedeebs (#115,755)

Yes .. and no

You're right there's nothing special about the bed itself. But that's also not the point. It's about exercising your "executive function" i.e the ability to think of a task, and then do it.

Many times people have good ideas but don't act on them. Ex. I should eat healthy, exercise, or study. Things that will objectively make your life better.

But there are just as many bad thoughts that stop us from acting on these good ideas. Ex. "What is the point of this", "this is a waste of time", or "I just don't feel like it".

Having a strong executive function means being able to ignore these bad thoughts and do the thing anyway.

Now I don't know if its causation or correlation, but if you can make your bed EVERY day, then you MUST have a strong executive function. Someone with a weak one couldn't do it.

Maybe is popsci voodoo. Or maybe there's a reason the military has you do it first thing every day.

It would be interesting to see an income breakdown of people that do and don't make their bed.

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ChasingPesmerga t1_isk3xck wrote

Why is it called self-discipline and not just discipline?

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Raleda t1_isk4y8e wrote

These things will not actively help me achieve my goals or dreams. What they will do, however, is stop the spiral backwards.

Maintenance sucks and my brain is bad at it... but it needs to be done.

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CopperPanMan t1_isk92yy wrote

This is misleading. The book Atomic Habits lays out all the many reasons that we don't actually do the things that we want to, and most of the time it's not about discipline at all. "Stop being lazy" is not good or actionable advice.

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lunchladyshand t1_iskgl9b wrote

My alarm went off 25 minutes ago and I’m laying in bed staring at Reddit on my phone. Shit.

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The84thWolf t1_iskjszk wrote

Is it self discipline if I do one of those things?

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Zerlish t1_iskytzk wrote

I sense a failed attempt at guilt-tripping and trying to make me responsible for my life. Nice try, but my bed stays unmade and in a state of mess, and so does my life, no thank you hahah

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IRBaboooon t1_isl5px0 wrote

Yo how tf making my bed gonna get me the "future life I want"?

Fuck that propaganda, that energy is better put into something that matters.

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GoatOfSteel t1_islg252 wrote

Discipline is choosing what you really want over want you want right now.

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Milo_Y t1_islg4rr wrote

You forget how many problem go away because they were ignored and forgotten.

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RemarkableEcho_ t1_islhopj wrote

Depression keeps me in bed and I chastise myself the whole time. These type of posts reinforce my negative thoughts and that sucks tbh.

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Cielmerlion t1_islhrm3 wrote

Fuck making your bed every morning. Give me one good fucking reason.ñ what that would benefit me in any way.

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pat_speed t1_isltgt5 wrote

Why do people have this near religious zeal over doing beds up.

Man I wake up 5 in morning, I'm trying too just get up and awake, I barely have the sense do my bed up.

Plus ITS MY BED, why so many care they do it up or not.

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CSL876 t1_islw2xd wrote

Spent my entire childhood being "disciplined" it's a hell hole. You will never catch up.

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[deleted] t1_ism68ft wrote

The reason I struggle to get out of bed is because of depression. I am trying my hardest to get out of bed but sometimes it takes me over an hour.

I think in this case it's not a lack of self discipline. So others if you're reading this, don't feel bad if you struggle to get out of bed on the first ring of your alarm clock.

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taylorpilot t1_ism6w5b wrote

Making my bed means absolutely nothing.

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Coni_Quinteros t1_ismgy3s wrote

Agree, self discipline is not about doing habit 1,2 & 3 in a mindless repetition… but understanding that you reap what you sow. If today you don’t plant the seeds of who you want to be in the future, you can’t expect to reap the benefits of it out of nowhere later on. what you need to do to be able to plant seeds and water them daily is up to you. Make it easy for yourself and rely on your self-discipline on keeping you from stranding off your path cuz you understand this basic concept: you reap what you sow. Have respect for your future self and everything comes afterwards

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rickyh7 t1_ismjpg4 wrote

ADHD be like bitch you thought

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anengineerandacat t1_ismknzy wrote

Making the bed everyday literally helped me get out of a bad spot of depression... I'll advocate that it's a very good and easily achieved habit to hit.

It's not easy, but if you can do one thing correctly and repeatedly you can do many other things which then let's you get back onto living life and moving forward.

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Lannater1 t1_ismot9f wrote

ADHD, welcome to my TED talk.

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FreakyManBaby t1_ismq0ds wrote

jokes on you, I set my alarm with respect to the fact I'm going to lay there for 20 minutes

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jedybg t1_ismv54c wrote

Replying to Joe_Doblow (#120,597)

I can help out here. Here are a few:

— External locus of control

— Habits

— Pleasure/Pain Balance

— Too much stress

— Lack of momentum

— Inefficient energy management

— Circadian rhythm out of whack (e.g. not enough sunlight; inconsistent sleep schedule)

— Lack of sleep

— Poor nutrition

— Lack of time management skills

— Lack of prioritization skills

— Lack of decision making skills

This is not extensive and it doesn't even cover people with mental disorders, on the spectrum, or battling life's circumstances (lack of housing and food, for example).

Just going with "be disciplined" without any context and understanding is like going to a car mechanic and getting "just have a working car". Very helpful!

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ag_fierro t1_ismyvtb wrote

I can’t make my bed in the morning. Someone is still sleeping in it . Won’t be accomplished. I’ll settle for Selfless-discipline.

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Bitter-Ad8728 t1_isn49vj wrote

Replying to CopperPanMan (#117,531)

Could be, as Jim rhon says, no one man has all the answers, you can read one book, and it will say do this to live longer, and another book can cover that book and it will say you will die young, but fundamentals, philosophies and principles almost never change.

Jim was astute though that little Disciplines affect greater ones, and I agree, this is evidenced in both biblical teachings about slothfulness, which is laziness, proverbs gives us examples of what happens, it leads to folly, mistakes, errors and poverty. All power house business men believe in these principles, whether Brian Tracey with his book eat that frog, he deals with time management and organizing regiments, tallying away unproductive time countering them with good habits. Jack Canfield with the law of attraction in chicken noodle soup for the soul, being around productive people also shimmy’s off you, being around lazy people also snips on you. So this is almost a universal law, Jim has it as a modem, like the seasons, we see even in nature animals like ants harvest, squirrels harvest and birds do too, you have to think summer al winter long, and think winter all summer long, but ultimately go with the seasons is best, all philosophers say the same thing, the Viking book Havamal says the slothful wolf starves, but the hunter gathers and is made fat.

We have two decisions, the pain of discipline, or the pain of regret, I know it’s not easy, but we see these things are universal laws, follow them and practice them, the dhammapada of Gautama Buddha explains the heedful and diligent man leads to joy, the negligent and unheedful man to sorrow and death.

Getter done.

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DaveInDigital t1_isncya7 wrote

Replying to KiniShakenBake (#117,089)

that's what i was thinking. my whole life i've been called lazy and i never really understood why i simply couldn't until i got a diagnosis and read about the spectrum of ADHD symptoms. "just make yourself do things" is the most unhelpful advice and is usually given by people trying to feel good about themselves like they're fuckin Tony Robbins rather than actually be helpful/encouraging.

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lepercake t1_isnfd4o wrote

Making your bed in the morning is good for the mites.

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Melenko t1_isnvbxb wrote

Thanks I'm cured screams in adhd

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KiniShakenBake t1_isp5vxm wrote

Replying to DaveInDigital (#122,205)

Right?! That last one about doing all the little things was a goddamn gut punch, and not in a good way.

That is literally one of the key symptoms of ADHD and depressions. Molehills to the neurotypicals may as well be the road to sauron.

Oh... And for women, ADHD looks totally different so we are being diagnosed so much later in life... It is a near epidemic for us at this point between 37 and 45 or so.

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DaveInDigital t1_it3hebw wrote

Replying to KiniShakenBake (#125,704)

yeah i was just recently diagnosed at 37. learning so much about it, a lot of stuff makes a lot more sense now 😅 my symptoms weren't terribly obvious either, or in the classic sense of what most people (myself included) traditionally think of as ADHD. i just suddenly had a lot of friends getting diagnosed, explaining their symptoms to me, and thinking "wait that's not normal??" 😅 turns out i had kept the company of people that are a lot like me, which now i realize is probably super common.

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