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Flash635 t1_ixq95uu wrote

Consider this; a hero may be no more than a person who knows they couldn't live with themselves if they did nothing.

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Peacelovefleshbones t1_ixqcag1 wrote

Is that a quote or are you just very eloquent?

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Flash635 t1_ixqdnpm wrote

It's a personal observation.

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GrandyPandy t1_ixsfzcf wrote

“A hero may be no more than a person who knows they couldn’t live with themselves if they did nothing. - Flash635, 25/11/22

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Dymonika t1_ixsy4g7 wrote

How dare you truncate and omit the "Consider this;" part!

/s (or not?)

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xpatmatt t1_ixu6tem wrote

>How dare you truncate and omit the "Consider this;"

Ya. It really tied the quote together.

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johnsolomon t1_ixqd7qf wrote

A hero is just a villain who did the wrong thing at the right time.

EDIT: It's a joke 😭

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Nanec t1_ixqgk5k wrote

I thought it was funny. I'm imagining the Michael Scott handshake-meme.

Shame you had to add the edit

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johnsolomon t1_ixqipot wrote

I was getting downvoted... I didn't think my joke was laugh out loud funny but I didn't expect it to make people angry either 😅

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creggieb t1_ixqmug5 wrote

Down votes for being funny are a badge of honor. It's a counter for how many others don't have a sense of humor

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ValyrianJedi t1_ixqktgd wrote

There is something to this. I'm definitely not a "hero" but have helped a decent number of people out of tight spots at personal risk/cost. 99% of the time it isn't preceded by some noble "this is the right thing to do", its preceeded by "oh son of a bitch, I've got to do this if I want to sleep tonight don't I? Damn it".

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foodnaptime t1_ixr4eb3 wrote

I think Kant would say that’s even better than helping people because you enjoy helping people — you don’t really feel like it, but you do it anyway out of recognition of and respect for what you believe morality requires of you.

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Dymonika t1_ixsyfdr wrote

This is interesting because I think I'm always like this: forcefully moral with others to the point of being friendship-repulsing, lol. Is that still "even better," then?

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just_breathing_air t1_ixr55o6 wrote

Same here it always happens to me 😭😭😭 i will keep thinking about them if I don't help them

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t53ix35 t1_ixrf577 wrote

Just had this happen. In a parking lot of a public park. Saw guy slumped over in from seat. Engine running, windows up. 3-4 y/o in car seat in back sleeping. Kinda did not know what to do. Called 911. Did they send an officer to check? Yup! And another cop and another cop and another, and a fire truck and an ambulance all with lights ablaze and sirens wailing. Guy was taking a nap. Felt stupid, but at least they are ok. One point of advice: Don’t nap in your car, too damn many overdoses, People are looking out for each other.

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Flash635 t1_ixrhgc1 wrote

You did the right thing. Could you have lived with yourself if it was a bad marriage break up and a murder suicide?

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t53ix35 t1_ixrliuf wrote

Exactly. Thank you. I was struck be how conflicted I was about calling for help. Like I was more afraid of being wrong and looking foolish than the chance something might really be wrong. Embarrassment is a powerful emotion.

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FearlessAttempt t1_ixsxmva wrote

“If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid.” - Epictetus

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SlackerAccount t1_ixqpxpk wrote

Consider this; a hero may be no more than a person who knows they couldn't live with themselves if they did nothing.

-/u/Flash635

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Flash635 t1_ixqqyfa wrote

Why did you do that?

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ILove2Bacon t1_ixtm564 wrote

Hell, I do nothing all the time. I'm doing nothing right now. I can live with it. I guess I'm no hero.

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wes9523 t1_ixtvtrq wrote

I always liked ThePrulds definition in his we are souls video.

“a hero is the one who does an extraordinary and generous act of courage which will or may result in the conscious sacrifice of himself to protect the good of others”

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bevelledo t1_ixqz23f wrote

Being brave isn’t not being scared, being brave is being scared and still doing something.

-Michael Scott

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nhnsn t1_ixr3hac wrote

I've heard it like a kid asking a man:

-Do brave people ever feel fear?

To which the man says:

-They couldn't be brave without fear.

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PuffPuffFayeFaye t1_ixsakco wrote

“Bravery isn’t an absence of fear, it’s acting in spite of it”

  • That wise owl Virgil from a cartoon I watched as a kid about another kid named Max with a teleporter hat
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PM_UR_TITS_SILLYGIRL t1_ixs06gx wrote

Frank, you know what a hero is? Ninety-nine times out of a hundred, he's somebody who's tired enough and cold enough and hungry enough not to give a damn. I don't give a damn. Come on.

-Hawkeye (from MASH)

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caging-runt t1_ixr3tt8 wrote

I remember seeing an interview with a D-Day veteran. The host called him a hero. His reply: I'm not a hero. All the heroes I knew are dead and I will never forget them.

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ComparisonGen t1_ixq77wx wrote

Persistence I love the quote it's similar to the one by Calvin Coolidge.

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ComparisonGen t1_ixq7e5x wrote

Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not: nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not: the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. -- Calvin Coolidge

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ComeFromTheWater t1_ixqbrrk wrote

Wish more people understood this. But post something like that on Reddit and responses are usually “luck” or “rich parents.”

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TheGrumpyre t1_ixqg1qf wrote

Luck, wealth and persistence are all wrapped up together. The odds of success on your first try are slim. If you want to be "lucky" you need to take as many opportunities as you can despite failing. And having wealth to cushion the fall when you fail means life won't force you to stop taking chances.

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DrenkBolij t1_ixqj4cw wrote

Don't ignore what effect luck plays. I often think of what Stephen Jay Gould wrote: "I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops."

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Alpacasaurus_Rekt t1_ixqe2i1 wrote

To be fair, rich parents basically make it so you don't need to succeed to live a good life

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Questions4Legal t1_ixrt8gh wrote

Reddit also has a lot of formerly "gifted" kids who were convinced by adults in their lives that they had an inevitable trajectory towards greatness who didn't end up going as far as they thought because, as the quote implies; persistence matters more.

I don't in general have anything against people like this but I do find it mildy annoying any time a post regarding the downside of being smart yet unsuccessful, "high IQ" or similar subjects that they're all "this is me and I don't like it".

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ComparisonGen t1_ixqnka6 wrote

This is a quandary. Every result stems from different factors, different aspects involved. So socioeconomic advantage has an effect, luck has an effect, and your own persistence also has an effect. It takes wisdom to consider all these levels.

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SavageGardner t1_ixs2iqo wrote

Luck and rich parents allow some people to be persistent through failures. Congrats to them, but some poor folks only have one failure and they are forever down. Being mindful of this isn't jealousy, it is being realistic.

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scurvofpcp t1_ixsdw5k wrote

Most people on Reddit don't understand what luck is, or most people in general. And ironically most of them could meme all day about the reasons to remember the name.

Still though, I've said it before and I'll say it again; if you get good at a couple things luck will find you.

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Gekidami t1_ixr2bpq wrote

If a hero is braver for a longer period of time compared to an ordinary man, then a hero is in fact more brave than an ordinary man.

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Art-Is-Life t1_ixreet1 wrote

Well, if I leave the stove on for 5 minutes longer, its not hotter, it's just as hot for five minutes longer, so I would disagree on this one I think.

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bigboygamer t1_ixrq5z2 wrote

Yeah, I think the implication is that the hero lived 5 minutes longer than the ordinary person.

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foodfighter t1_ixsjgi9 wrote

I'm not a huge Matt Damon fan, but there's a line from one of his films ("We Bought a Zoo") that stuck with me:

"You know, sometimes all you need is twenty seconds of insane courage… literally twenty seconds of just embarrassing bravery, and I promise you, something great will come of it."

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Baumanlol t1_ixr3m8f wrote

Why 5?

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swashbuckler2020 t1_ixrewhi wrote

he based it on a double-blind study with N=113 and that was found to be the median additional duration of the experimental group

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Reefer-eyed_Beans t1_ixsbdb0 wrote

Idk but it's a flawed and baseless assertion anyway. Some people do things that others literally won't. Where does this "duration" concept come from? lmao it's nonsense. If you run into a burning building and I don't... then you were brave and I wasn't. And you sure as shit weren't brave for 5 minutes. Hardly anything I would call brave is likely to last 5 minutes, that's insanely long. Anyway, I would argue that the "brave" part is the moment you decide to take action... after that you're in full adrenaline and concentration mode, and no longer feeling fear.

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immortalkoil t1_ixqqaoy wrote

I like it. I'm not heroic, I'm just trying to live with myself.

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KaffY- t1_ixqwg3d wrote

I too played Call of Duty

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__System__ t1_ixqq055 wrote

/thatsnotworthrepeating

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BantyRed t1_ixqspuq wrote

Sometimes heroes live significantly shorter too

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Dhruviya_Bhalu t1_ixqbm2v wrote

i don't understand

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octobertwins t1_ixqybzz wrote

I think it's one of those things that has to apply to a certain situation.

But I can't think of one.

I would think maybe a hero does something five minutes sooner makes more sense.

I don't know.

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AccomplishedPlans t1_ixsksri wrote

The degree of bravery dictates how much 'staying power' you have to holdyourself and confront the object in question, where one with a lesserdegree of bravery will 'let go', 'relinquish', give in, turn away, or give up sooner. In this way, the higher degree of bravery is seen to correlate with holding fast and steadfast for a longer duration - ultimately allowing them to do what is necessary to win, influence, or rectify the powerful situation and complete the actions deemed heroic. It can be viewed as a point on determination and the longer one can remain resolute and unfaltered in the face of the external influence, the more they can get done despite it's power - ie. they are affected less due to being able to hold their own, despite the immense
effect the influence should have on them.

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letsgojags t1_ixqyyvw wrote

Yeah, that's still more bravery, dipshit.

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fishings2 t1_ixr8122 wrote

Not all can stand and be counted, this is fact.

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overzeetop t1_ixr8hcu wrote

While this may be true, discretion is the better part of valor.

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SoupeGoate22 t1_ixrzuex wrote

so they are braver than an ordinary man?

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MacSquawk t1_ixt4ztf wrote

When you risk personal safety to help others, you are probably a hero to someone.

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Responsibility_57 t1_ixtz6f2 wrote

Being brave means doing what is necessary even though it is unpopular.

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Ryengu t1_ixqymxo wrote

"Without fear in our hearts, we're little different than the beasts themselves."

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smolkorl t1_ixra3vc wrote

Because they die and get called a hero for it?

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Anomalous6 t1_ixrou6w wrote

A hero kills people, people that wish him harm. A hero is part human and part supernatural.

A hero is born out of a childhood trauma, or out of a disaster that must be avenged.

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noniboi t1_ixrp2wp wrote

i must say, waldo did not find himself in this one, heroes are far braver than ordinary people and they are not exclusively man, females are heroes too

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Tony_Stark_0 t1_ixrsf4a wrote

This reminds me of something I've always believed: That the difference between courage and cowardice, is that someone who is courageous still feels fear, but they don't let that fear dictate their actions, they do what they feel must be done regardless.

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taylorpilot t1_ixsq74r wrote

Five minutes is a long time…three minutes is just fine.

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Kiroto50 t1_ixr3y9r wrote

A fool is no less brave than a hero, but he's braver 5 minutes later.

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AngryTrucker t1_ixrameo wrote

So all I have to do is outlive someone considered a hero and I'm good.

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wutevahung t1_ixrqay5 wrote

That’s what she said

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d_e_l_u_x_e t1_ixs1m64 wrote

Using the word “longer” instead of “braver” both use “er” to describe someone going above the norm. Semantics.

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MCEMC2 t1_ixs8ob7 wrote

And dead just as long so

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Luke90210 t1_ixs9eyv wrote

Cannot remember who said the first thing a hero must do is be capable of saving themselves, and then risk their lives anyway for someone else.

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lkodl t1_ixsbv5k wrote

"Four or five moments. That's all it takes to be a hero. People think you wake up a hero, brush your teeth a hero, ejaculate into a soap dispenser a hero. But now, being a hero, it's only a few moments. Few moments doing the ugly stuff no one else will do." - Deadpool

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gbchrome t1_ixsfie2 wrote

What she said.

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moistclump t1_ixsgas0 wrote

It may be more brave. Alternatively, it may be more dead. Not heeding other’s responses isn’t always brave. Sometimes, it’s stupid.

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Zyxoxyz t1_ixsiuxa wrote

Some for a lot longer.

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mkmckinley t1_ixskcik wrote

WTF did Ralph there know about bravery? Did he do something brave?

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Netroth t1_ixsq0cy wrote

I don’t understand what that even means.

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dresseryessir t1_ixt8n5z wrote

Is this also the CoD camper motto?

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black-rhombus t1_ixtlla4 wrote

He contradicted himself. A hero is at least 5 minutes more brave than an ordinary man.

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BillytheBrassBall t1_ixxgzn4 wrote

What the fuck does this mean and why does it have 10,000 upvotes

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determinedSkeleton t1_ixqfkzq wrote

I wonder what he thought the difference that five minutes makes truly was.

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TouchMyButtpussy t1_ixqjm7b wrote

Life or death

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hickryjustaswell t1_ixr2jpv wrote

Usually theirs. Especially in active shooter situations sadly. In that scenario you can guarantee I will not be playing hero.

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TouchMyButtpussy t1_ixr31b7 wrote

I'm no hero, but I wouldn't hesitate to stop an active shooter even if I'm unarmed. It isn't even a question.

That's not hero stuff. That's just normal human empathy.

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hickryjustaswell t1_ixrj2bb wrote

Good for you? My son needs me. Sorry but that's when I choose to be selfish.

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TouchMyButtpussy t1_ixrljrj wrote

Hey may bad I wasn't directing my comment directly at you. Just a general thought about that type of situation. People throw around the term hero when they see people just doing what I think most good people would do.

I totally understand what you mean in regards to your child, however I do believe that no child deserves to have a coward for a parent.

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Zeioth t1_ixqfndl wrote

A hero is a construction in your mind. A hero doesn't exist.

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