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SirHovaOfBrooklyn t1_j4774up wrote

Reply to comment by blitzwann in [Image] "I have not failed 700 times. I have not failed once. I have succeeded in proving that those 700 ways will not work. When I have eliminated the ways that will not work, I will find the way that will work." ~ Thomas A. Edison by Butterflies_Books

It’s about the quote not the person. OP could just have very much excluded the name but the message would still have the same impact.

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maybeitsme20 t1_j47l4ze wrote

It is not the same impact.

It is about the person. Attaching a famous historical person to a quote is done to give it weight. If you throw a quote up not attributed to anyone it just won't resonate the same as if you can say it was said by Albert Einstein or Abraham Lincoln.

This quote in particular, if you had a high opinion of Edison and believed the myth that he was some genius inventor you would be inspired that he worked hard, didn't let his failures stop him, and he went on to revolutionize the world. More are learning he was really a corporation cheating and benefitting off the work of others.

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Lost_vob t1_j49315o wrote

There is no myth, he was a gifted inventor. People are "learning" nonsence from clickbait articles and 4chan memes. Tesla himself attested to it I'm his autobiography:

>"The meeting with Edison was a memorable event in my life. I was amazed at this wonderful man who, without early advantages and scientific training, had accomplished so much."

Was he perfect?! No! When you live for 70 years and spent most of that time in influence positions in society, of course you're going to have missteps, mistakes, and even some shady dealings. But whatever else Edison was, he certianly was a brilliant tinkerer.

If you're still not convinced, let me ask you this: if he never invented his own things, where did he get the money to buy out everyone else's Inventions? He didn't come from money. He was a telegraph technician ffs.

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zimorok t1_j494zsn wrote

Name one of his "invention". Eddison never have his own invention. All are "commision" and he took the credit, burying the original inventor in legal

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Lost_vob t1_j49mjfm wrote

And how did he afford all those commissions?

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zimorok t1_j49pwf5 wrote

The discussion is, what invention did Edison make?

Since u are simping for Edison, u know how he came to have the fund. Also, he "successfully invented" viable commercial light bulb, which is done by other engineer

>He didn't come from money. He was a telegraph technician ffs.

Didnt come from money, yet somehow he made 100s of business & partnership? Where did he get the "money" to start all that business? Only a telegraph Technician yet able to "successfully invented" something way beyond his own knowledge

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Lost_vob t1_j49riq2 wrote

Phonograph, ore processor, power meter, tattoo gun,

Edison's own light bulb patent starts with the word "improvement." He didn't claim to invent it, but make it better. History bestowed they upon him. This is often the case with inventors. Every invention is just an improvement or modification of something else. Historians have variation of the Ship of Theseus. Where is the line between new invention and a modification of a new invention. And it gets more complicated when you add in new use for old inventions! This is called the "Heroic theory of scientific development" and it real just exists to make history books less daunting for school children. It's a gross over simplification of how innovation works.

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zimorok t1_j49scdc wrote

When he file for "improvement", the "improvement" is 100% identical to what the other party made. So yes, stealing.

Just like how the current copyright law are being missused. The first to claim for "copyright" is "the owner" regardless if the original author file for "copyright" or not. Worse, if original author want to file for "copyright" but somebody else already files first, the orignal author got denied.

>Phonograph, ore processor, power meter, tattoo gun

So, "Telegraph Technician ffs" have the knowledge or "idea" to invent this? 🤣

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SirHovaOfBrooklyn t1_j49g8k4 wrote

That’s just how you feel because you’re primed to automatically diminish everything that edison did. I am ambivalent so the quote is just a quote. We have a lot of motivational quotes with “anonymous” tagged on to it and it is still equally motivational. You’re just biased. It’s like saying Kevin Spacey’s movies were bad just because he’s a gay child molester.

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