Submitted by wanjalize t3_10c201j in GetMotivated

Being logical and knowing why you need to start will get you started.

Continuing will require constant motivation. (This is for the short term)

However, going for the long haul requires strongly built habits.

Thoughts?

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cryptocarlton87 t1_j4dfbb7 wrote

Motivation is only one, perhaps the first component. Discipline and consistency are the subsequent needs.

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wanjalize OP t1_j4evaap wrote

Yes, we definitely need consistency if we are to go more than a mile

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mytrickytrick t1_j4da8vr wrote

As an example, you're a couchslob that wants to run a 5k funrun in a few months. Sure, perfectly reasonable. What's going to get your fat slobass off the couch? You can start training tomorrow, enjoy your last day of freedom! Tomorrow, eww, it's too sunny outside. I don't want to get sweaty and sunburned. I'll stay inside and clean the house! See, still productive.

You can come up with all sorts of excuses to do anything other than move closer to your goal. Motivation is a two-part idea that first gets your aforementioned slobass off the couch and then secondly keeps you walking, jogging, running, ... When it's hot outside, when your knees hurt, when the kitchen is a little dirty and would make a great excuse to skip exercise.

After a while of meeting your small step goals of walking for a mile a day and then jogging for a day, you do eventually build up to that long-term strongly built habit, but it takes time, devotion, and motivation.

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wanjalize OP t1_j4ew4d6 wrote

Yes😂 we all have used those excuses at a point in the process of establishing or achieving our goals.

I don't know why I think If you have a strong reason for doing something then it is done automatically regardless of motivation. And this strong resolve can also help in formimg habits.

However, what you've stated is also true as motivation can get you off the couch and have you withstanding high amounts of difficulties.

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mytrickytrick t1_j4g3ru8 wrote

>I don't know why I think If you have a strong reason for doing something then it is done automatically regardless of motivation. And this strong resolve can also help in formimg habits.

"Motivation" is just another way to say "reason."

>However, what you've stated is also true as motivation can get you off the couch and have you withstanding high amounts of difficulties.

Because that motivation is your reason to get your slobass off the couch, to stay awake late studying new material, to eat just the foods on your diet menu during the holidays. If your only reason to do something is weaker than what your brain can think of to not do it, then it's going to be tricky to stay doing it. It's your mind fighting your mind; how can you convince yourself that a short-term struggle with a longer-term benefit is better than a short-term gain with a long-term negative? That's the question you have to ask yourself in lots of situations as you go through life. The G. Michael Hopf quote is accurate on a macro and micro scale: "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” In your interpersonal relationships and within just yourself, to struggle sometimes is good because it means you're pushing yourself to new expansions past your comfort zone which lead to new developments and a sense of accomplishment at what your were able to do when you hadn't been able to do that before.

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[deleted] t1_j4lcon8 wrote

If you have the time and ability to go to the gym you aren't in hard times.

That hard times quote is beyond cringe.

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mytrickytrick t1_j4lkkly wrote

I did only a quick scan of the thread, but where did op or I mention a gym? Aside from health issues such as MS/age/..., pretty much anybody can go at least walk outside for a little bit, totally separate from a paid gym membership.

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[deleted] t1_j4lc8lf wrote

First off, what's the motivation for running a 5K?

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mytrickytrick t1_j4lk2jr wrote

>First off, what's the motivation for running a 5K?

Maybe you're a couchslob that is realizing that getting out of breath walking up a single flight of stairs isn't normal, maybe the 5k is a fundraiser for a disease or issue that took a loved one, maybe your child's school has a 5k funrun and your child wants to compete in it with you. There could be lots of different reasons for wanting to run a 5k.

What's your second item? First off, but no secondly.

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[deleted] t1_j4lnxwd wrote

Why is all motivation associated with the gym or exercise?

I'm not running no 5K because I don't have time for such wasteful bullshit.

Motivation? Keeping your kids fed. Keeping a roof over their heads. Making money no matter how bad you hate your job or your coworkers. No matter what it robs you health wise.

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mytrickytrick t1_j4lr1me wrote

My initial post used a 5k as my example, then you asked about what the motivation is for running a 5k so I responded to that, and you're again asking about exercise.

>Why is all motivation associated with the gym or exercise?

Because you keep asking about it. Motivation can be to keep studying late at night for school when you don't see an immediate benefit or when it's not really necessary. Maybe you have a decent job and are getting by well enough without stressing about more school. For your point about feeding your kids, having more degrees make you more employable and more likely to have a higher salary, so that's your motivation. Maybe you need motivation to clean the house. Will the roof collapse if you push off or skip a week of cleaning the bathrooms? No, but is it nice to have a clean place to live. There are plenty of non-exercise examples for motivation.

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[deleted] t1_j4lt71x wrote

No, because almost every motivational thing on here goes with exercise or the gym, including your post.

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flyingjesuit t1_j4dgr0r wrote

Without discipline it fades, but it can be a good thing

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wanjalize OP t1_j4evduh wrote

Just to start... But i'd rather be disciplined and consistent

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Vashh92 t1_j4hntex wrote

This is why I personally enjoy the idea of engineering your environment to support good habits and deter impulsive decisions. Trying to start and stay committed to something is hard, but having the tools to work on it immediately available will improve your odds of working on it every time you see it. For example, dumbbells are always in my living room. Because of that, I workout more than if they were in my closet. I also tend to have pull-up bars in convenient hallways. I will likely have a journal and pen sitting on a living room too because I want to write

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wanjalize OP t1_j4k2or5 wrote

Yes, this actually helps in the formation of habits as it places triggers all around you.

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