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notyurmamma t1_j678qf5 wrote

I believe that the overriding consensus is that we are not leaving earth better than we found it. Pollution from plastics and micro-plastics, carbon emissions, chemical irritants, all man-made substances, invading our air, soil, and water…depleting our ecosystems. This impetus, this “progression,” at times foolhardy..this deterioration…driven by ego and greed and childish vanity…are we that much better off? Are we closer to a sustainable planet? A sustainable economy? A sustainable life? Not really. I think that is the point of this entire conversation. People sought out spices and decimated native cultures. People sought out other territories and eventually fought for control. Would war even be an issue if not for greed? If not for control and leverage and “furthering” one’s position? There is a tipping point. At which point do you trade happiness in the sake of “progression?” I don’t particularly know, but I feel like on the whole, we have surpassed it.

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AngelicDevilz OP t1_j6836tx wrote

Humans work more of their lives today in 2022 than we did at any point in the past. Progression has led to more work, less freedom, less freedom and more laws and more prison time than in the past. The old man isn't making things better but he isn't making things worse, the young lad who wants a fishing empire contributes to making the World worse for 99% of people whilst improving it only for those so rich they have never had to worry about not being able to afford both rent And food.

I'd choose happiness for most humans over cars and smartphones any day.

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