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newpinkbunnyslippers t1_j862y0m wrote

Literally this.

Whenever you have someone being a complete and utter idiot, they always justify it by "just being true to their honest selves".
Social correction is a vital tool for existing in a society.
Doing whatever you want and not caring what other people think is not a positive trait.
You should care what others think.
Anything else is narcissism.

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gmrpnk21 t1_j864u9g wrote

Yeah, the argument of "some people are going to think I'm shitty" is not a justification for actually being shitty.

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Corno4825 t1_j86fet1 wrote

Well, I don't know if there's a single person where there is a unanimous consensus that they're not a shitty person.

Dolly Parton maybe.

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MangoCats t1_j89vci3 wrote

Oh, Dolly is a deeply flawed individual, wonderful to the core, but not to be emulated in many ways.

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Corno4825 t1_j89zi7a wrote

How so?

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MangoCats t1_j8a6r61 wrote

The repeated surgeries for her stage image for a start, that's not something I would call a role model for young girls. She also has a problem with being humble (for instance, playing concerts for small audiences at small venues) - which worked out for her, but isn't something everyone could emulate. But: we're all human, and on balance she's a hell of a lot better person than most of us.

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MangoCats t1_j89v4sb wrote

And yet, in all things find balance. There are plenty of times when social pressures should be resisted, even pushed back against, because the social pressures are themselves negative traits.

Having a clear view of (and acting on) what is good and bad is more important than whatever the majority are saying or doing.

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newpinkbunnyslippers t1_j8fpq32 wrote

No, there are absolutely 0 times when "you", an individual, are justified in defying the majority norm. It's only ever a question of not consulting a large enough sample size.

If your 4 friends are idiots, no, you shouldn't listen to them.
But if 10.000 unaffiliated strangers say that it is, in fact, you who are the idiot; then, you are.

And that is always the case, simply for the fact that ethics and morals - the very things that decide what "doing the right thing" even means, are societal constructs. They are made up by humanity on a group basis and, historically, peer enforced.

If, at any time, you decide that "you" know better than everyone else - you need your ego checked.

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MangoCats t1_j8gbh57 wrote

You are going to have a very bad time when the issues split near 50/50, and your whole theory basically says: F the minorities, they must comply with the majority or else.

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