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Celeste_0211 t1_j8zsa70 wrote

Ah yes, Margaret Thatcher, the iconic fictional character

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Amanystya t1_j90n9m0 wrote

And the woman who singlehandedly decimated the working class

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criminalsunrise t1_j90no6q wrote

God bless her for that at least.

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superfrank_8 t1_j91exyn wrote

Hey Maggie Thatcher, you're all right! Thanks to you, I sleep at night. You keep England safe. You're a very special lady.

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afreakinchorizo t1_j926e43 wrote

Therapist: Repeat after me, “The Iron Lady isn’t real, she can’t hurt me any more.”

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ca_kingmaker t1_j99pghd wrote

She's the political equivalent of lead poisoning. It will fuck you up long after you're no longer exposed.

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TextInteresting4449 t1_j8ze55j wrote

MARGRET THATCHER

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Shoel3ssJoe t1_j929icy wrote

Do you think Margaret Thatcher effectively utilized girl power when she funneled money into illegal paramilitary death camps in Northern Ireland?

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XTJ7 t1_j93yhj4 wrote

So her quote was more of a "do as I say, not as I do" kinda deal?

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canrat t1_j92oa91 wrote

I came here to comment I was having such a good time til I got to fucking Thatcher 😭

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ColoursRock t1_j8ztbsz wrote

You forgot to add D.W. from Arthur.

This sign can't stop me because I can't read!

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Mr310 t1_j8zqzhv wrote

I know how to run without you holding my hand? That's empowering for like a 7 year old.

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PhillipsAsunder t1_j90hnto wrote

Agreed, surely she has a better quote than that.

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MadMax2910 t1_j92smnc wrote

None that I'm aware of. The Last Jedi had questionable writing and the Rise of Skywalker was none the better.

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Scoobz1961 t1_j90p6f4 wrote

Thats a snarky comment that is in no way empowering. Its toxic, thats what it is.

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soiramio3000 t1_j90goc0 wrote

Some of them are not empowering at all.

Some interesting quote that some people should actually know is "emotion does not invalidate purpose, it informs it". it is from the game the fall 2 unbound.

The context is a long story so I will keep it short: The robot buttler had depression and was convinced that he can't have both emotions and a life's purpose at once, so since he has a purpose in life he must not have any emotions. When arid made him realize that he does have emotions he paniced, that's when she told him that.

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LadyLazaev t1_j8z8his wrote

Really highlights how weak of a character Rey was, lol.

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justasmalltowndad t1_j8z9p48 wrote

Literally the first thing I noticed too, lol

Also, they should have kept the movie version of Eowyn's "I am no man" quote. It's like the pinnacle of all of these quotes.

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Scoobz1961 t1_j90q7tt wrote

Honestly "I am no man" was almost as bad as the quote from Rey. It felt out of place, unsatisfying, dumb and like a comedy bit. She was able to kill the most feared creature in the world because of language semantic. I have no idea how that ended up in the movie.

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justasmalltowndad t1_j90qnlj wrote

You are objectively wrong.

It felt perfectly IN place, (witch king says "no man can kill me") it was satisfying AF especially in the extended version, it was a clever payoff for both characters, and not a single person in the theaters laughed at that part. Sure, there were some smiles but it was because that scene showcases a strong female win in the most SATISFYING way possible.

And it wasn't her line that made her able to kill the witch king... If you believe that, then you are both objectively wrong AND an idiot.

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Talarin20 t1_j90ugo6 wrote

The Witch-King said "no Man can kill me". Race, not gender.

And yes, it was her line & gender that ultimately killed the Witch-King in the movie, because Tom Bombadil was basically written out and the Hobbits did not have their numenorean daggers, which is how Merry originally made this kill possible.

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Scoobz1961 t1_j90r9sk wrote

I cant be objectively wrong in my subjective opinion. I could also do without the unnecessary personal attacks.

I liked the scene in the blueray 2.1 extended version where the scene continued:

>Witch King: no man can kill me
Eowyn: I am no man
*Eowyn stabs the Witch King*
Witch King: Ackshually, the word "man" signifies a person in this case, not gender.
*Witch King kills Eowyn*

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OsosFuriosos t1_j921v9g wrote

To be fair, semantics and word play have always been an important part of literature, and definitely when it comes to prophecy.

Take Macbeth for instance: “None of woman born shall harm Macbeth.” So of course Macbeth just assumes that he will survive the battle. Then Macduff comes along with the whole “Sorry for the miscommunication bro. I wasn’t actually BORN of woman because I was a c-section baby. Ripped untimely from my mothers womb. So…. Gonna just go ahead and kill you now.” (Macduff’s speech here is paraphrased haha)

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Scoobz1961 t1_j927jtd wrote

In my opinion it was a horrible line, but that doesnt matter. What matters is that "I am no man" is in no way motivational line.

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OsosFuriosos t1_j92iwb6 wrote

Sure. This list was not good in a lot of choices lol. Not arguing that.

But you were saying how you didn’t understand how it ended up in the movie. And I’m saying that it had a lot of literary history to prove WHY it ended up there.

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Scoobz1961 t1_j92k4hm wrote

That just means I really didnt like it. I thought it so bad I googled what the hell that was about and found out that there is a cut from movies storyline in the books that explains that it had nothing to do with gender, but the hobbit who stuck the Witch King before her one liner did so with very special magic dagger that made Witch King vulnerable.

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o_-o_-o_- t1_j937gef wrote

Disagree in context of the book, agree in context of motivational quotes. Distilling eowyn and "motivation" down to... being a woman? Lame as fuck. Being a woman is not what makes any woman great, is not where intrinsic worth lies.

But as to the quote being badass,

Context: you snuck into a fierce battle, facing your death and doom for the glimmer of hope if saving your world, when you see basically evil incarnate, a massive, powerful foe, strike down your beloved uncle who's basically a father figure to you and your brother. With fierce courage, maybe passionate stupidity, swept up in the intensity and absurdity of the hopeless battle you marched into, you put yourself between this foe and your dying uncle.

>'Begone, foul dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion! Leave the dead in peace!'
A cold voice answered: 'Come not between the Nazgûl and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye.'
A sword rang as it was drawn. 'Do what you will; but I will hinder it, if I may.'
'Hinder me? Thou fool. No living man may hinder me!'
Then Merry heard of all sounds in that hour the strangest. It seemed that Dernhelm laughed, and the clear voice was like the ring of steel. 'But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Éowyn I am, Éomund's daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him.'
The winged creature screamed at her, but the Ringwraith made no answer, and was silent, as if in sudden doubt. Very amazement for a moment conquered Merry's fear. He opened his eyes and the blackness was lifted from them. There some paces from him sat the great beast, and all seemed dark about it, and above it loomed the Nazgûl Lord like a shadow of despair. A little to the left facing them stood she whom he had called Dernhelm. But the helm of her secrecy, had fallen from her, and her bright hair, released from its bonds, gleamed with pale gold upon her shoulders. Her eyes grey as the sea were hard and fell, and yet tears were on her cheek. A sword was in her hand, and she raised her shield against the horror of her enemy's eyes.
Éowyn it was, and Dernhelm also. For into Merry's mind flashed the memory of the face that he saw at the riding from Dunharrow: the face of one that goes seeking death, having no hope. Pity filled his heart and great wonder, and suddenly the slow-kindled courage of his race awoke. He clenched his hand. She should not die, so fair, so desperate At least she should not die alone, unaided.
The face of their enemy was not turned towards him, but still he hardly dared to move, dreading lest the deadly eyes should fall on him. Slowly, slowly he began to crawl aside; but the Black Captain, in doubt and malice intent upon the woman before him, heeded him no more than a worm in the mud.
Suddenly the great beast beat its hideous wings, and the wind of them was foul. Again it leaped into the air, and then swiftly fell down upon Éowyn, shrieking, striking with beak and claw. Still she did not blench: maiden of the Rohirrim, child of kings, slender but as a steel-blade, fair but terrible. A swift stroke she dealt, skilled and deadly. The outstretched neck she clove asunder, and the hewn head fell like a stone. Backward she sprang as the huge shape crashed to ruin, vast wings outspread, crumpled on the earth; and with its fall the shadow passed away. A light fell about her, and her hair shone in the sunrise.
Out of the wreck rose the Black Rider, tall and threatening, towering above her. With a cry of hatred that stung the very ears like venom he let fall his mace. Her shield was shivered in many pieces, and her arm was broken; she stumbled to her knees. He bent over her like a cloud, and his eyes glittered; he raised his mace to kill.
But suddenly he too stumbled forward with a cry of bitter pain, and his stroke went wide, driving into the ground. Merry's sword had stabbed him from behind, shearing through the black mantle, and passing up beneath the hauberk had pierced the sinew behind his mighty knee. 'Éowyn! Éowyn!' cried Merry. Then tottering, struggling up, with her last strength she drove her sword between crown and mantle, as the great shoulders bowed before her. The sword broke sparkling into many shards. The crown rolled away with a clang. Éowyn fell forward upon her fallen foe. But lo! the mantle and hauberk were empty. Shapeless they lay now on the ground, torn and tumbled; and a cry went up into the shuddering air, and faded to a shrill wailing, passing with the wind, a voice bodiless and thin that died, and was swallowed up, and was never heard again in that age of this world

Tldr- it's a clever play on words Eowyn, represented consistently as an intelligent and thoughtful character, made in an absurd moment. Like you're on the brink of death, and a monster says "mankind can't kill me," but uses the word "man," so you jump in with a pun that kind of upends their confident statement. Fits with the wording of prophesy? Check. Why not? A lot of the magic and power in LotR is that of the magic and power of words and intent. This moment supports that wonderfully with a play on words and words and intent as an encouragement, that allows Merry to overcome his own fear, and leading to his ability to make a very helpful assist.

I think the movie actually ruined this moment. I can understand why you didn't like it in the movie. I was disappointed in it in the movie. It's everything in the book, even as someone who was sensitive to things that were too "girl power"-y when I first read the books.

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Scoobz1961 t1_j9479rc wrote

The movie version is so much worse than the book its unreal. The difference is that in the book the line took place during prefight exchange. In the movie it was a stupid oneliner before a kill. It stopped the momentum of the battle and made the audience think she was able to kill him because of her sex.

Now knowing the whole context, I dont understand why they picked the first part of the quote that is about gender instead of the second part that is about standing up to protect your family.

>Éowyn I am, Éomund's daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him

This is much better candidate for motivational line.

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o_-o_-o_- t1_j94my00 wrote

100% with you here, and what you say about the different effects of the differently paced scenes! I'm so happy you appreciated the scene in its full written glory!

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eternal8phoenix t1_j90sjig wrote

It bothers me how many of the disney "quotes" aren't even bloody quotes.... they're just the moral of the story. Rapunzel never mentioned her comfort zone, Mulan doesn't talk about masks....

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DrBigMo t1_j91lw9z wrote

The Mulan quote is from the song, “Reflection” that she sings. Not from dialogue.

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AllyBeth t1_j924qif wrote

From the live action one? I haven’t seen it. It’s definitely not from the animated one.

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DrBigMo t1_j93wj0f wrote

Definitely from the animated one. They even had a big selling point of having Christina Aguilera sing the song for publicity as part of the film being released.

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supersloo t1_j94cl79 wrote

The Merida/Brave quote isn't a quote either.

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SBR404 t1_j90hn1u wrote

Fake. There is no Ellen Ripley.

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pantstoaknifefight2 t1_j936nds wrote

Read the whole damn thing hoping to get to "Get away from her you bitch!"

And Sara Connor's "If a machine, a terminator, can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too."

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Fijipod t1_j96l1t0 wrote

If you don't support Ellen Ripley I'm not voting for you

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EbonBehelit t1_j8zuwsi wrote

"In this life, you will meet with both admiration and abuse from others. How others choose to view you is a choice only they can make. You cannot make it for them. All that truly matters is that you hold firm to your own values."

- Cyllene (Pokemon Legends: Arceus)

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TBTabby t1_j8zdzla wrote

"And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That's what sin is." -Granny Weatherwax, Carpe Jugulum

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smthngwyrd t1_j93h4cw wrote

It’s also mentioned in the Tiffany Aching books

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PurpleSunCraze t1_j90hc6i wrote

Wouldn’t it be more empowering to have quotes from actual women? Or at least have it be entirely composed of characters from female authors/creators? Or shit at least not almost entirely cartoon characters? It almost low key insulting.

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WhiskeyAndKisses t1_j94r7r7 wrote

I agree it would be worth its own post and even be better, but that's a bit downplaying the role of fictional female figure, as a subject on its own.

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stephruvy t1_j8zegrl wrote

Replace rey with like.... Beatrix kiddo from kill bill.

And according to Jennifer Lawrence, she was the first empowered lead female character so replace her with Ripley or literally anyone else.

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Scoobz1961 t1_j90qbbj wrote

Its baffling to me that there are no Ripley or Sarah Connor quotes in there.

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kiffiekat t1_j92pdg7 wrote

Has she ever seen a Bette Davis movie? Or Katharine Hepburn? Or even Helen Slater in The Legend of Billie Jean, for crumb's sake?

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stephruvy t1_j93il1t wrote

I don't think she's seen any movie ever.

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mmcc339 t1_j910h5q wrote

So many of these quotes were written by men.lol

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TA2556 t1_j916dru wrote

"I know how to run without you holding my hand!"

That's it? That's the quote from Rey?

Of all her lines, that's the one you go with?

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a_phantom_limb t1_j91ihyb wrote

…Margaret Thatcher? I wish she were a fictional character!

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RedPoliceBox t1_j905gz4 wrote

This is pretty awful, and overall insulting to women.

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lyov11 t1_j90dlt1 wrote

“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take”

  • Wayne Gretzky
  • Michael Scott
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LynxKuroneko t1_j91y77x wrote

Imagine deliberately going to a Motivation post and trying to ruin it. It's okay to be insecure. It isnt okay to force it on others.

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lyov11 t1_j91zgcs wrote

Posting an actual motivational quote from an actual sports icon should be more motivational then a blue fish with memory issues. It’s ok to be insecure. It isn’t ok to be motivated by imaginary cartoon characters. Sleep tight Karen.

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LynxKuroneko t1_j91zrjo wrote

So you believe a man playing sports is a better inspirational source than fictional characters based off real experiences reflecting on their struggles?

Damn, I definitely couldn't sleep at night if that were me.

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lyov11 t1_j923n0r wrote

Those real experiences you speak of are based off of actual real people…so yes, a man playing sports is a better inspirational source than princess bubblegum.

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LynxKuroneko t1_j923xts wrote

I'm not sure how to get the point across. Best of luck with figuring it out.

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7th_Spectrum t1_j91s9fa wrote

This is such a bad post, why tf is Margaret Thatcher on there lmao. Might as well include Queen Elizabeth from The Crown

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paracoon t1_j8zxa0i wrote

I would have included a quote from Mattie Ross, from the Coen Brothers' remake of "True Grit".

"You must pay for everything in this world, one way or another. There is nothing free, except the grace of God."

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Misubi_Bluth t1_j9284lz wrote

Okay can we talk about how Pocahontas WASN'T a fictional character, and calling her such is actually REALLY disrespectful???

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khamelean t1_j93layc wrote

Real people and fictional characters can have the same name :)

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Rick-D-99 t1_j92j6q6 wrote

"Get away from her you BITCH" -Ellen Ripley

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haydenman t1_j91eeu8 wrote

Mostly created by male writers

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jonesjb t1_j90i5kd wrote

We’re all of these quotes written by women too?

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MycologistPutrid7494 t1_j91yg8o wrote

What's your point though?

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jonesjb t1_j93etzs wrote

My rhetorical question implies that many were written by men... my point being that historically there was a gender gap and glass ceiling which prevented women from being in positions of power to write these sorts of screenplays and quotes. Inspirational messages are great, yes, but if beyond the superficial output and positive veneer women in Hollywood weren't being treated as equals, it's unfortunate.

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Ysanoire t1_j90xzb2 wrote

Empowering quote "I'm a woman"

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brandon-cam t1_j91ch7l wrote

just remember there is a 50/50 chance that the script was written by a guy.

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SecretAgentClunk t1_j8zedpz wrote

Team Jasmine here, that's such a fantastic quote

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Zeshicage85 t1_j9323j8 wrote

Why not quotes from real women? I would imagine most these quotes were written by men.

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HarlequinLord t1_j93dkg4 wrote

Being alone isn’t empowering Elsa

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wthoutwax t1_j94er6d wrote

Yeah I mean isn’t the entire point of the movie and frozen two that being alone and running away isn’t the answer

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bigloser420 t1_j9063q7 wrote

Downvoted for Margaret Thatcher.

Ding Dong

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Brunhilda100 t1_j90fk64 wrote

My favorite, Just keep swimming.

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paleandwise t1_j92d75g wrote

No Ellen Ripley, list is shit!

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TheCapo024 t1_j90rfkm wrote

Now do 50 fictional quotes from empowering female characters.

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WhiskeyAndKisses t1_j94qoo6 wrote

Man tries to not turn a post about women into dick fight [impossible]

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Riisiichan t1_j918t60 wrote

If only Emma Watson wasn’t named in the Panama Papers with all her offshore bank accounts.

She’s nothing like Hermione now. :(

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Hmccormack t1_j934x2d wrote

“I only need to know one thing… where they are.” -Private Vasquez

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Known-nwonK t1_j9820ag wrote

Offhand only three of those quotes were created by women (for certain)? The rest are from men writing women

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everneveragain t1_j8zkrwy wrote

I thought Elesa was Elsa and was like, I’m pretty sure she didn’t say that

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turkeyburpin t1_j90buny wrote

Why did I read all these with the accents of the characters?

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metalmonsoon t1_j90wx23 wrote

I love that they quote storm basically saying I am lightning because she literally is

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howtheeffdidigethere t1_j9181vi wrote

Where the hell is Buffy?!

EDIT: found her, bottom row. Didn’t realize the image expanded….

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Ramf_357 t1_j91j23m wrote

When even Dori is more profound than Rey

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sdlhak t1_j91oldt wrote

Hummmm, I'm sure not all these characters were created by women, nor their quotes ...

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w7jonb t1_j92zgdu wrote

44 of which were written by men 🤔

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Kingofsoysauce t1_j93dxfl wrote

How dare you missing the Swedish Princess

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khamelean t1_j93l4iq wrote

“You look upon a woman” - Eowyn

Damn, that’s inspiring stuff…

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Waasamatteryou t1_j94jdyt wrote

Why the fuck is Margaret Thatcher there?

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SchultzkysATraitor t1_j95euyr wrote

Some of these seem like they were just picked out of a bag.

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slasher148 t1_j95h9wk wrote

TIL Margaret Thatcher is a fictional character.

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salmiakki1 t1_j95jpfm wrote

Clownfish are protandrous hermaphrodites

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blue2610 t1_j968fpa wrote

Those characters were virtually all written by men :D

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cuppa_tea_4_me t1_j96b1mi wrote

This is really good. I wish they had one for males too.

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Breeblez t1_j9722of wrote

PB ominous af

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lyfemetre t1_j99t9n6 wrote

I wonder what the men would say for motivational quotes from iconic movies?

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CareerLow5248 t1_j9e1t46 wrote

Ding dong the witch is dead!

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the iconic fictional charac

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SubTukkZero t1_j9fk1q5 wrote

“I am the plan!”

Love it!

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lordeughan t1_j915t31 wrote

Are there any from male fictional characters? My nephew said it's always female, and he's right.

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oxyconsello t1_j92vcgh wrote

There are many strong female warriors in Ukraine. There is a quote of one of them: "I was sleeping in a basement when I heard a hit in the house. I turned to my comrade, asked him "are there our people upstairs?", he said "no, keep sleeping". I closed my eyes and kept sleeping". Make your conclusions.

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ExiledCanuck t1_j927fqw wrote

Make one of these with empowering quotes for little boys.

Seems like the media is awash with empowering females while disparaging males. Sucks that people seem to think that in order to make things equal, you have to pull others down to lift yourself up. Sounds like what happens when people are drowning. I wish the world would lift everyone up, that way everyone can be awesome, together.

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LudoVicoHeard t1_j95dail wrote

Well said. Personally a 50/50 mix would have been very motivating. But that wouldn't be fashionable would it.

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