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ExistentialDreadness t1_j9ozv4c wrote

Reply to comment by TKCerbs in [Image] It's never too late for anything by heavilyremake71

Same. I mean, who really actually wants to bring a child into this mess?

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DukeVerde t1_j9q21y3 wrote

Its' called adoption, for those already in this mess.

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I_Got_Jimmies t1_j9pgc8b wrote

The trick is to completely ignore reality, replace that part of your brain with television or religion, and become very selfish. This all seems to be correlated pretty directly with number of children.

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Derpsauce1337 t1_j9qbqbi wrote

Ah yes the selfishness of.. not wanting to bring someone into poverty when there is no clear way out?

Not wanting to bring someone into the world who is completely dependent on me when I already struggle with mental health and absolutely cannot take care of them to the degree I would want to?

yes, selfish

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I_Got_Jimmies t1_j9qcxze wrote

You’re….. agreeing with me.

What’s highly correlated with religious fundamentalism? Catholics aren’t known for their tiny single child families.

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Derpsauce1337 t1_j9qdb9o wrote

Ah yes I see now, I thought you were going the other way with it, but the religion should have clued me in more

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Derpsauce1337 t1_j9qdck0 wrote

Ah yes I see now, I thought you were going the other way with it, but the religion should have clued me in more

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discattho t1_j9qcsmd wrote

pretty sure he's saying that people who ignore those mainstream issues and don't care about other people, including their own offspring, are the ones who have a lot of kids.

I don't agree, but that was his point.

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Derpsauce1337 t1_j9qd5q6 wrote

Ah I can definitely see that now, thanks for clarifying!

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I_Got_Jimmies t1_j9qd6uv wrote

Glad we have kind hearted people like you to put people like me in their place.

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DuskyDay t1_j9qg2yb wrote

They are, in fact, selfish.

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losprimera t1_j9r3kgp wrote

wait, youre saying that people have kids explicitly to prop up the economy?

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losprimera t1_j9rag8w wrote

i do. im just clarifying if its explicit. That means im asking if ppl have children with the intent to prop up the economy.

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losprimera t1_j9snr7n wrote

well, u were arguing witht the other dude about motives. he argued that havin kids was selfish. It was a surprisingly nuanced answer, because there are, afaik, two possible claims here. Either its A) the desire for conception is selfish (especially if its an instinctual desire), or B) the outcome is undesirable (e.g. an insecure future for the child). Ofc, you brought in a completely different argument that it props up an economy and failed to address the above two claims directly, but the curious thing is that selfishness and self-serving principles are very much part of the incentives of a free economy, so really there isnt a point of contention between you and him. thats why I wanted to clarify and see if you were aware that you had been arguing a strawman.

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TwistedMetalGear t1_j9s5aqu wrote

What you explain is a nice benefit of continuing the human race, but nobody really thinks "hmm, I'm worried about the future state of the economy, therefore I'm gonna have kids to prop it up."

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DuskyDay t1_j9qkjh3 wrote

> So everyone with kids is selfish? Doesn’t matter that those kids will literally run the economy and society and make sure the infrastructure is there to support you when you’re old?

The problem is that there are too many kids. Only some of them would be necessary.

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DuskyDay t1_j9quejn wrote

It doesn't matter which ones. There should be much less of them. I don't see why is this simple point so complicated for you.

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I_Got_Jimmies t1_j9qgc3p wrote

Oh Lordy, thank ya for settin me a-straight. I see the light! Oh how I’ve wronged! Shower me with forgiveness and I shall neva err agin!

Also when you put quotes around something, that usually means it’s to indicate a quote. As in, something that was previously said or written. Not a paraphrasing. But yknow, we’re all learning!

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I_Got_Jimmies t1_j9ql4ra wrote

I’ll be in good company! Thanks friend!

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I_Got_Jimmies t1_j9qnfwe wrote

I hope you’re raising your kids with a better attitude than you have.

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I_Got_Jimmies t1_j9qp45t wrote

Ok I’ll speak your language then.

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Bath t1_j9qlfgf wrote

My thoughts exactly, I'd have kids in an ideal world but not in this world

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