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[deleted] t1_iqswarb wrote

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iroh18 t1_iqthb76 wrote

Agreed, but beware links to Abebooks as they are also owned by Amazon

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THE_MAGIC_OF_REALITY t1_iqtopu6 wrote

Really?? Wtf

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fivehead21 t1_iqu948s wrote

ThriftBooks is a good alternative!

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1nquiringMinds t1_iqujnzb wrote

Thriftbooks is excellent. I paid a buck or two more than Amazon for a book recently, but earned a free (under 5 or 7 dollars iirc) book in the process and got free shipping. Big ups for Thriftbooks.

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meepiquitous t1_iqt6mrz wrote

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molluskus t1_iqteasn wrote

I get LibGen for overpriced college textbooks, out-of-print work, or if you're broke and looking for something specific, but authors really should get paid for their labor. Your local library, local bookshop, or Bookshop/Bookfinder gets them paid.

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mjarthur1977 t1_iqx7zee wrote

Libraries and used books don't bring them more money...

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molluskus t1_iqxbcbs wrote

Public libraries pay for books they purchase (generally a higher price than retail bookstores) and many governments also have public lending rights that pay royalties per individual borrow.

I never said anything about used books, but they're basically considered a given and not something that can/should be fought in the first place. Used book sales are always going to exist, and have existed since the first books did. Besides, the first buyer counts as a sale, and most used books go through only a handful of readers.

Again, LibGen is great if you're broke and looking for a specific book. Not hating on anyone in that situation. But if you can afford it, or if you're looking for something more general (e.g. "a mystery novel set in the 80's"), then buying new or going to the library/bookstore, respectively, is preferable from the POV of the author.

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WikiSummarizerBot t1_iqt6odk wrote

Library Genesis

>Library Genesis (Libgen) is a file-sharing based shadow library website for scholarly journal articles, academic and general-interest books, images, comics, audiobooks, and magazines. The site enables free access to content that is otherwise paywalled or not digitized elsewhere. Libgen describes itself as a "links aggregator", providing a searchable database of items "collected from publicly available public Internet resources" as well as files uploaded "from users". Libgen provides access to copyrighted works, such as PDFs of content from Elsevier's ScienceDirect web-portal.

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femalenerdish t1_iqu1cnf wrote

Z library is a mirror for LibGen plus some additional content. I've found a few things there I couldn't find on LibGen.

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luigman t1_iqujvbe wrote

Yea, LibGen has been letting me down recently tbh but zlib always pulls through

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MiroslavHoudek t1_iqwi1kj wrote

Now if somebody made an alternative to this, which is not Russian. Currently arguably one of the few things someone might want to avoid for moral reasons more than Amazon.

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meepiquitous t1_iqx876t wrote

You can download the torrent files, and host them yourself, if you like.

Provided you have about 120 tb of disk space, of course.

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Sugarsupernova t1_iqt2nvy wrote

Good time to drop the friendly reminder that The Book Depository is owned by Amazon.

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Candyvanmanstan t1_iqu8b61 wrote

(ā”›ā—‰Š”ā—‰)ā”›å½”ā”»ā”ā”»

Fuck that. I had no idea :(

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LordGnomeMBE OP t1_iqsj9dd wrote

I'm very much an amateur; I'm learning coding in my spare time - I never did computing past year 9 level (UK, if you're wondering).

I created this small website mainly for myself, but I thought I'd post it here too.

It takes an amazon link for a book and extracts the ISBN so you can look elsewhere easily. It also converts this to a booksprice.co.uk link so you can compare prices for the book.

That's really about it -thanks for looking!

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warbeforepeace t1_iqu1cga wrote

Just curious if you are trying to avoid amazon why is it hosted on aws?

https://imgur.com/a/SyuHPnp

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LordGnomeMBE OP t1_iqv51mh wrote

My little site is on GitHub. If they use AWS, thereā€™s not a lot I can do about it. Booksprice.co.uk is not mine, so also not a lot I can do.

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[deleted] t1_iqwdwaf wrote

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rijncur t1_iqwz6om wrote

Booksprice does support HTTPS but it seems the cert is for a casino rating websiteā€¦ as if it needed to be any sketchier šŸ˜¬

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_____SPIDERMAN______ t1_iquaqaz wrote

Don't resellers usually just resell AWS? Been awhile since I've needed any sort of hosting šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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warbeforepeace t1_iquawmk wrote

Some do. Whoever he is hosting with is using aws and aws IPs. You can also bring your own IPs. There are many alternatives to aws including google cloud, azure, oracle, and a lot of smaller shops.

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perrycotto t1_iqv0r3z wrote

Very nice idea ! It would be cool to add the option of pasting directly the ISBN code, also it would be "cool" if you're website is hosted by another service provider instead of AWS ?

I don't know if it's possible but for example in my city there's a website that connects a lot of public libraries around the country (to borrow for free books), maybe you could also link that ? Plus a link to archive website or other lending free platforms

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LordGnomeMBE OP t1_iqv19ll wrote

Yeah, I plan to expand it as I work out how to make that work.

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Stoneman-person t1_iranoey wrote

Part of my business is reselling books. How can I list them on your site?

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LordGnomeMBE OP t1_irapf54 wrote

Iā€™m working on a new improved version. Iā€™ll send you a message when itā€™s ready!

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kenji-benji t1_iqu6ci0 wrote

Maybe take on ice saws and chimney brushes next

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PM_ME_MY_INFO t1_iqsy7fj wrote

Does your app find places that offer one or two day shipping too?

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nephelokokkygia t1_iqtgw0h wrote

How often is 2-day shipping really a necessity?

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turtlewhisperer23 t1_iqu3zvj wrote

Nothing is a necessity these days. But the convenience is the competition. How much do you really need lighting during the night?

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zarek1729 t1_iqtjan0 wrote

Having experienced living with and without 1 day shipping, it is very convenient. Specially when you are reading a series that has many entries and you can't just buy the whole series in one fell swoop, you can buy book-per-book as you read it and not have to calculate the shipping time with the approximate time you will end the previous book.

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nerevisigoth t1_iquh2nz wrote

>Having experienced living with and without 1 day shipping

In some circles we just say "before 2005"

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nephelokokkygia t1_iqtp1yq wrote

I mean there's lots of options for that. You could order one book ahead in the series as you're reading, you could pick an arbitrary point in each book (like halfway through) to order the next one, you could buy the books in a brick-and-mortar store, or you could just exercise patience.

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zarek1729 t1_iqtpibo wrote

I mean, I was just explaining why 1 day delivery is convenient and why at least I want it. The only better option would be a brick-and-mortar store, but if you don't live in an english speaking country and want to read in english, you are mostly out of luck.

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BDMayhem t1_iqtm11u wrote

Books aren't often a necessity. They're wonderful and beautiful and fill us with joy, but they're rarely necessary. They're luxuries, just like two day shipping.

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PykeAbuser t1_iqsniyt wrote

Just curious, why avoid amazon?

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charrcheese t1_iqsnurf wrote

Probably if you donā€™t support their business practices, or have something against Bezos. Or it just might be cheaper somewhere else.

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warbeforepeace t1_iqu180u wrote

But he hosted the website on aws

https://imgur.com/a/SyuHPnp

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greentiger45 t1_iquqmsj wrote

Bezos isnā€™t involved with Amazon. Thereā€™s a new ceo for a couple years now.

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ViralRiver t1_iquvhaa wrote

He is literally the executive chairman of Amazon.

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charrcheese t1_iqvrzsj wrote

And everyone on the planet associates him with the company.

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greentiger45 t1_iqw0qvw wrote

The board does not dictate what a company does, thatā€™s the job of the CEO.

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WolfeReader t1_iqtfayb wrote

DRM and non-standard ebook formats, in order to lock Kindle buyers into their ecosystem. I've been boycotting Amazon since 2010 for this reason.

(Obviously users with sufficient technical skills and a cavalier attitude toward ToS can get around this. I don't think this is accurate for a lot of customers though.)

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Deathbrush t1_iqtsi79 wrote

There are open source ebook managers that are built to edit ebooks/convert between formats. Many of them have sketchy plugins that will strip DRM from various kinds of DRM protected ebooks

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Appoxo t1_iqv29lb wrote

Bought a paperwhite and 90% of my calibre is pirated, 5% are impossible-to-find ebooks from amazon and the other 5% is DRM free ebooks from Osiander and other domestic shops.

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ElisabetSobeck t1_iqsw3v6 wrote

Drivers pee in bottles and poop in bags to stay on time. The warehouse workers work schedules that hurt organs and tendons, and are close to wearing diapers like meat packers need to. I have a friend that got hurt working the less strenuous jobs at a warehouse.

Warehouse workers sometimes die packing the boxes as fast as they do. Then managers force workers to work next to the corpse for hours or be fired. They have mental health booths or ā€œsuicide boothsā€ people jokingly call them, where you can sit inside and cry or clam down if you need to.

Edit: Deaths, most of which management ignored until a worker found the body and called 911 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/17/amazon-warehouse-worker-deaths

The workers who died after being forced to work in the path of a tornado https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/11/business/amazon-deaths-warehouse-tornado/index.html

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Optimistic__Elephant t1_iquh8eb wrote

> Warehouse workers sometimes die packing the boxes as fast as they do. Then managers force workers to work next to the corpse for hours or be fired.

Got a citation for that? As much as I dislike Amazon, thatā€™s a bit tough to believe.

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ElisabetSobeck t1_iqx10tq wrote

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/17/amazon-warehouse-worker-deaths

Please also note that management KNOWS if a worker is not scanning packages, or spending too long in the bathroom, and will ping their mobile device until they get back on track. People have reported that a manager will physically visit you within 3 minutes if youā€™re delayed. They could see these bodies on their surveillance system for 20-30 minutes. And they saw these bodies AND DID NOT CALL FOR PARAMEDICS.

I also didnā€™t mention the warehouse workers threatened with termination if they didnā€™t work in the path of a TORNADO. Warehouse workers who are now dead because of said tornado (prompting an investigation by the House).

ā€œBit tough to believeā€ yeah sure. You dislike Amazon and havenā€™t heard of these deaths. Thatā€™s easy to believe

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realnikkipotnick t1_iqtbk5m wrote

they arenā€™t slaves, they can quit

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fungusfunions t1_iqu4mpt wrote

True on the face, unfortunately some people canā€™t afford to lose their jobs. A young family member worked there and was quite unhappy in the warehouse job he had, but kept it because this was the closest thing to a living wage an unskilled worker like him could get.

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[deleted] t1_iqwdhl0 wrote

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ElisabetSobeck t1_iqx1mtr wrote

Why would Amazon spend money and time training someone so they can leave

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ElisabetSobeck t1_iqz8w73 wrote

Nice super-specific Amazon benefits ad my guy. Totally not sketchy at all

Iā€™m sure you can take them up on that benefits offer after 50-60 hours of warehouse work. Or 50-60 hours of peeing in bottles and pooping in bags. Learn to code after getting those crumbs.

These workers are being abused. My friend was abused. And people like you are so weak they canā€™t even fathom that something is wrong

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[deleted] t1_iqzdo3y wrote

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ElisabetSobeck t1_iqzgpcw wrote

You just defended Amazon for like 5 hours my guy. After I explicitly said my friend was injured working for them. Get out of my face

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jandkas t1_iqta89n wrote

So time to stop buying everything right? Have you ever had beef? Or plastic? Honestly no consumption under capitalism is ethical, so virtue signaling like this is useless

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louis_etal t1_iqtcdot wrote

One of the most useless of all philosophical outlooks is to make imperfections of any kind the enemy of any improvements. Things are not perfect and never will be but that does make any attempt at betterment pointless.

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Lampshader t1_iqti1d6 wrote

Nothing is ethical so you might as well just go around brutally murdering everyone right?

Oh no, wait, it turns out there are degrees of things. What a concept.

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PineJew t1_iqsxof7 wrote

Because Jeff Bezos can suck my large phallic member personally if he wants me to shop using Amazon

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Sarfbot t1_iqx3ikk wrote

Honestly 8/10 points are BS and show a deep level of ignorance. Journalism has gone to shit.

-Ordering from Amazon is BY FAR the most environmentally favorable way of engaging in consumer retail. Each truck on the road replaces 35+ cars. Amazon also has the most aggressive carbon neutral target out of any retailer.

-Treatment of workers getting worse? Tons of threads in the actual Amazon FC Reddit page comparing work at Amazon vs other warehouses. They are overwhelmingly positive. Yes, lots of posts asking for more $ (latest wave is asking for $30/hour for sort and pick). FYI Average starting pay is now $18.50/hour. How does Amazons compensation compare with similar work?

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DrBRSK t1_iqt61c9 wrote

Brandon Sanderson talked quite a bit about this on his YouTube channel a few weeks ago.

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Igotthedueceduece t1_iqt3l6g wrote

All downvotes, smells like r/conservative in here. Why donā€™t people just tell you why you donā€™t want to buy from Amazon instead of downvoting lol. Bunch of losers

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lurrrkerrr t1_iqt6mn1 wrote

Having never visited /r/Conservative, what is the connection? Downvoting without answering? Hating Amazon?

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Igotthedueceduece t1_iqt7ejp wrote

Iā€™ve had all my accounts banned from /r/conservative for simply politely asking two times why something is disliked or why they believe something, and I was genuinely curious for a response.

so downvoting without answering is the connection, except there itā€™s a permaban for simply questioning anything

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Fearless_Locality t1_iqte1bz wrote

Reddit hates rich people and corporations

And they read headlines and don't realise Amazon is a large business so there are good places to work and bad places to work.

Literally the reason.

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ContemplatingFolly t1_iqtnvlc wrote

Of course there is some variation among locations. But here are some reasons to boycott. not for you necessarily but just for anyone reading the thread:

  1. I try not to patronize any really huge corporations. They stifle competition, and have too much power and influence on national and international policies, as well as over their independent sellers and subcontractors.

  2. Their labor policies creep me out, and don't vary that much given all of the automation of every process in the warehouses.

  3. Jeff Bezos has enough money.

Instead I try to patronize a local business, or go direct to the manufacturer.

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Inventiveunicorn t1_iqsrrtb wrote

Welcome to Reddit where spotty little wankers downvote you for asking a question.

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everybodypretend t1_iqst26l wrote

assimilate! Opinion not recognised! Administer down votes!

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Inventiveunicorn t1_iquuafi wrote

They are hilarious. It's like Pavlov's dogs, so easy to predict.
Downvote away my little acne-besieged, angry, man-children,...do your worst. It makes me smile.

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everybodypretend t1_iquz2d5 wrote

Itā€™s not their fault. Their brains have been smoothed out by too much reddit use.

In real life there exists this space between right and wrong called discourse.

But thatā€™s too much effort here, thereā€™s no space between up ā¬†ļø and down ā¬‡ļø

The comments under this will be dismissive or non existent

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charrcheese t1_iqso5eb wrote

I like the idea, I think this function might be more useful though as a browser extension which could be a fun project for you. Also, it looks like they support https but their ssl cert expired in April and they havenā€™t bothered to renew it.

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Van_GOOOOOUGH t1_iqsqiw3 wrote

And someone else has already done this. They developed an extension and a website for shopping the same items you would find on Amazon except not from Amazon. And they spammed it all over Reddit repeatedly for quite some time.

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SheepherderNo2440 t1_iqt6tl9 wrote

> And they spammed it all over Reddit repeatedly for quite some time.

A tale as old as time

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toddzilla57 t1_iqsvrkr wrote

Bookshop.org is a good place to try too!

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cbendrey t1_iqwsuzh wrote

I use this. You pick your local independent bookshop and your book comes from there. Is it uk only?

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ProfessorGluttony t1_iqt7vvz wrote

This is awesome, but I will point out that if a book is published on amazon (ebook or print on demand) then you are unlikely to find it anyplace cheaper unless it is on sale on the other retailers, as amazon has a policy of not being undercut.

This works swimmingly for normal books though.

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fjccommish t1_iqv3f3d wrote

Security risk warning. Nope.

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[deleted] t1_iqwdobs wrote

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fjccommish t1_iqwf3xg wrote

The site doesn't even do what OP claims. Enter an Amazon URL. It returns a link to some other site that's a security risk. WTF is that?

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djdood0o0o t1_iqthmce wrote

Great idea but the name is awful. No one will remember that. Need a better name to keep your traffic.

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chocobo-selecta t1_iqu4loo wrote

FYI, just because you donā€™t buy it from Amazon, it doesnā€™t mean they havenā€™t printed itā€¦ name any major publisher, and you can almost guarantee a portion of their content is printed at an Amazon cell. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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Belletenebreuse t1_iqv48za wrote

Three or so years ago, I went directly to an author's website to buy a series expressly to avoid buying from Amazon.

Turned out she uses Amazon to print and/or drop ship, so the package came from them anyways. And her site was probably on AWS too, for all I know. :(

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lordlemming t1_iqtmwz3 wrote

Maybe I'm biased because I live near Portland, but Powell's is a great place to buy from. A big catalogue and decent site. They ran out of used copies of a book that I ordered so they sent me a brand new one free of charge.

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oxfouzer t1_iqwolvc wrote

Or Iā€™ll just use Amazon and itā€™ll be cheaper, faster, and reliably employ more people

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Sarfbot t1_iqx23m8 wrote

For real. I worked in small businesses growing up. We got paid in cash, no overtime, no insurance, no taxes. People donā€™t realize large public companies are infinitely more regulated and monitored then small businesses.

Also, ordering from Amazon is by far the most environmentally sustainable form of consumer retail. Butā€¦. We are not ready to have that conversation.

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MafiaMommaBruno t1_iqtfdzx wrote

Honestly, more people should look outside of Amazon for things. I work in the shipping industry and it's amazing what people resale on Amazon for two or three times what they bought it for at literally almost any other store.

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thedrunkpenguin t1_iqtnu0m wrote

Prime opportunity to use "inator"

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madjo t1_iqvcdr5 wrote

Behold, my Amazon-inator. It transforms every non-amazon-link back to an amazon-link, and then I'll take over the entire tri-state area!

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Kree8tive t1_iquu1kv wrote

Now if someone would make an app that shows me where to buy other products besides Amazon.

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GuessWhatIGot t1_iqt2g08 wrote

There is also thriftbooks.com and z-lib.org for e-books. I haven't used thrift books yet, but z-lib has had even obscure publications I need for work, all for free.

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BlockAccording t1_iqu1klo wrote

I just go to my local bookstore and ask them to order it if not in stock.

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Lone_Beagle t1_iqwgest wrote

Exactly this!

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Sarfbot t1_iqx1q0n wrote

They most likely order from Amazon lol

Just canā€™t beat the price, speed, selection and secure payments. Last thing you want is your credit data in the hands of multiple small businesses with who-knows-what level of security.

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fried_eggs_and_ham t1_iqwmi9h wrote

This would be useful as a browser extension that automatically provides Amazon alternatives while you browse Amazon.

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ImBusyGoAway t1_iqt2oba wrote

Does this work for ebooks? I got a kindle recently so not sure if I have to use Amazon or not

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RucITYpUti t1_iqtlkzm wrote

Check out your local library for ebooks if you haven't. You can often get stuff delivered right to your Kindle.

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madjo t1_iqvc6hx wrote

If you're in the US, yes. Outside of the US, ymmv.

Here in NL, it's epub, I believe.

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wamceachern t1_iqtu3nt wrote

First book I looked for couldn't find it.

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TheDenisovan t1_iqtxny2 wrote

I prefer ebooks. Does this work for that? And what's a good ebook reader for those divorcing Amazon?

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planastrike t1_iqu95i9 wrote

Or your local library or call your local book shops?

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yukibunny t1_iqudshs wrote

Love the fact the story directly under this in my Reddit app is an ad for Amazon's October prime days.

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sold_snek t1_iqueurv wrote

I donā€™t think Amazon is a book company anymore.

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sbr999 t1_iqur9wm wrote

Nice, can you do one for the other categories too?

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YasJGFeed t1_iquskn5 wrote

How exactly do I use the website?

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LordGnomeMBE OP t1_iqut0qt wrote

> press convert a URL

> enter valid Amazon link

> press ok

> see output

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mechaPantsu t1_iqvidel wrote

Missed opportunity to call it (BEHOLD!) The Deamazoninator and have a r/suddenlydoofenshmirtz moment.

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CHANROBI t1_iqvuacy wrote

I just use zlib lmao

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eskiedog t1_iqw02c5 wrote

Very cool idea and thank you for sharing. No matter what you look for, even comparing reviews, always goes to Amazon- I do everything to avoid giving them more $.

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yash13 t1_iqw24va wrote

This is awesome. Great job.

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becelav t1_iqw7uqb wrote

I worked at a used book warehouse for a few years several years ago. They have always been an online store but theyā€™ve grown and have two brick and mortar stores as well

https://www.onceuponatimebooks.com

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Mister_Brevity t1_iqwtxif wrote

Canā€™t you just search on google and append -Amazon.com to the end to exclude Amazon results?

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MiroslavHoudek t1_iqwypvm wrote

I tried once to make an order somewhere else and their shopping basket completely segfaulted. Tried a second time and they were not sending to my country. It's hard to help people who are actively fighting your help :-/

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JohnnyAK907 t1_iqx1wiv wrote

Congrats, you invented Google.
Search "local bookstores." Done and done.

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Chuck_Noia t1_iqx5co9 wrote

Just for books? šŸ˜•

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tech_booey t1_iqt01tf wrote

You wouldn't happen to be Dr.Heinz Doofenshmirtz by any chance?

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iWillNeverReplyToYou t1_iqtxft8 wrote

An ereader that can check out books from the library is a phenomenal purchase, just don't get a kindle, which is of course owned by Amazon.

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I_am_darkness t1_iquocrt wrote

Holy shit I was about to start making this but for all goods.

Was going to make a chrome extension.

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TembwbamMilkshake t1_iqupysk wrote

So now I just need this for... Every other product besides books. Everything I try to buy online now it seems like Amazon is the only option.

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Reborn5275 t1_iquq86x wrote

Maybe you can just create my browser to not have any Amazon recommending sites. All these top 10 review websites are ducking rediculous

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err0r404usernotfound t1_iqus8zs wrote

eBay is my go to for books. I just grab a used copy for not much. Saves the environment and me money

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Treczoks t1_iqv3vre wrote

Way easier: I look up the book on Amazon, copy the details into a mail, and send it to my local book store.

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Sarfbot t1_iqx43sd wrote

Bahahahah please talk to actual workers. This is hilarious.

  1. Anyone that has worked in transportation industry knows you tend to carry a bottle for when you are stuck in traffic. This is industry practice, has been ever since long haul trucking became a thing. Everything you have in your home contributes to it. Including things you buy from small businesses. Why single out Amazon?

  2. close to wearing diapers? Lmao. Please find another cause to get behind. Bless your heart, this isnā€™t real. Go talk to actually Amazon workers, thereā€™s half a million of them. Go visit the Reddit page AmazonFC. You can find many threads comparing Amazon work vs other warehouse work and they are overwhelmingly in favor of Amazon.

You have a good heart and care for others, but are being taken on a ride by shotty click bait ā€œjournalismā€.

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menirh t1_iqt6qjc wrote

Wait, Amazon sells books? /s

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PantherX69 t1_iqtxlg7 wrote

People buy books from AMAZON??

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FlumpSpoon t1_iqvb0fw wrote

As an author, thank you for this. I only get 2/3rds of my royalty from Amazon sales. Amazon can sell my books cheaper than I can buy them, and still make a profit.

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AVeryFineUsername t1_iqwgn0r wrote

But why would I want to buy books anywhere other than amazon?

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Sprites7 t1_iqwh8xd wrote

oh , finding the books is easy. but some are way , way more expensive than amazon for imported stuff...

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ohyeaoksure t1_iqtp91x wrote

hey that's cool I created amazonamo.us so you could buy sex toys Christmas presents from Amazon without your family knowing it.

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fajitaman69 t1_iqtc27n wrote

God forbid you can buy every book ever from a single website

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Mezzaomega t1_iqv5tbg wrote

I see someone hasn't learnt the lesson from playing Monopoly

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theodore_j_detweiler t1_iqswoeu wrote

Just go to the library? Lmfao

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doctorcrimson t1_iqujyir wrote

A lot of libraries in the USA are being defunded, sold, and either privatized or replaced with businesses.

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