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DanAtuch t1_iu14501 wrote
Yes
[deleted] t1_iu1csvy wrote
We have 10 fingers on our hands and the decimal system uses exactly 10 symbols to count. Imagine what we would of donr if we had 11 instead
1337b337 t1_iu1faa1 wrote
Schoolhouse Rock made a song about an alien with 6 digits on each limb; Was all about Base 12 number system.
kulalolk t1_iu1mlqt wrote
“Little Twelvetoes” from the classic album “Multiplication Rock”
elrugmunchero t1_iu2tj1c wrote
Yet we have a word for a dozen dozen
JesusIsMyZoloft t1_iu3250e wrote
that's gross...
ClusterChuk t1_iu3a80b wrote
Don't be a square.
ScreamapillarAPI t1_iu1fpxp wrote
The base 10 number system wasn't universal for human civilization and certainly wasn't the first numeric system developed by humans. The sumerians used a base 60 counting system which they passed on to the Babylonians, which is why we we still measure our time and things like angles and coordinates in geometry by factors of 60. (Eg 60 seconds in a minute 60 minutes in an hour)
It originated by using our thumb to point to the 3 bones of our fingers, times that by 4 you get 12, times that by 5 fingers per batch of 12 and you get 60. (That last step at the end confuses me because it seems to contradict using your thumb to point to your 4 fingers but that's what the wiki seems to say)
RisingPhoenix5 t1_iu2jfu6 wrote
So essentially, your dominant hand would count up to twelve using the bones on your fingers of that same hand.
On the other hand (This entire comment is worth it for that pun), your non-dominant hand would count the number of times you reached 12 while counting, or the multiple of 12 to use. So two fingers on the offhand would be equivalent to 24, while three of the offhand and 3 bones on the dominant hand would be 2(12)+3 = 27.
At least, that was my understanding from the Wikipedia page.
ScreamapillarAPI t1_iu30g51 wrote
Doesn't that describe a base 12 system though rather than a base 60, if your off hand represents X * 12? Like in base 10, eleven is represented as 11. (1 * 10 + 1) and in base 2 11 is three (1 * 2 + 1)
Edit: I found a video by numberphile explaining base 60 and he describes it exactly like you did. I guess what I'm hung up on is why is it considered base 60 rather than base 12? https://youtu.be/R9m2jck1f90
RisingPhoenix5 t1_iu36thr wrote
Because you consider both hands. You can get to 12 on one hand, but using both hands you can count to 60 total. Thats just a guess on my part though, I don't actually know.
TheThiefMaster t1_iu3dt5n wrote
It's because it goes to 12 on one hand, then 5 on the other, and then if you go higher it does 12 again then 5 again. You can think of that as going to 60 on both hands, then 60 again, rather than alternating 12 and 5.
e.g. 12×5 (60) seconds, then 12×5 (60) minutes, then 12 hours
Really it's an alternating base 12/5 number system though.
[deleted] t1_iu32vpo wrote
That's a base 12 system, I use it sometimes. It's easier to use than counting on fingers. It's a popular way of counting in a lot of places
RisingPhoenix5 t1_iu36q32 wrote
As noted in other comments and the wiki I commented on, it is actually a base 60, not 12. 12 is just the number of digits you can count to on one hand. In the same way the base 10 system works off of both hands, just using a different base.
DjuncleMC t1_iu1gxbq wrote
Very interesting, thank you for this knowledge!
postdusk t1_iu2hcgb wrote
Count the single digits on the 'smart hand', second digit on the slower hand, is my guess.
RipleyScroll t1_iu3ikcw wrote
It's not the second digit on the slower hand though, but the multiplicator for the single digits
Dr_SlapMD t1_iu25ens wrote
"would of"
AtotheCtotheG t1_iu2zvp1 wrote
Would have, not would of.
elrugmunchero t1_iu2to51 wrote
Look what we do using ones and zeroes, the base doesn't change the maths, the numbers are just written differently
5up3rK4m16uru t1_iu3ivvt wrote
A prime number would really suck as a base.
[deleted] t1_iu3pgx3 wrote
Yeah you're right
Fuck i couldn't even imagine how HORRIBLE IT WOULD BE, like, to have a base 2 system!!!!!!11!
Lepke2011 t1_iu6qbih wrote
Actually, we have 8 fingers.
The thumb is an opposable appendage.
El_Nieto_PR t1_iu2b643 wrote
777 is the color of blood. Blood of Christ?
Coincidence?!
Checkmate, Atheists
AtotheCtotheG t1_iu300ua wrote
Huh. One of us has very unusually-colored blood. But which…?
Gotta go check something. 🗡
Frog_Brother t1_iu2r5ql wrote
420 is purple.
What have we stumbled on here?
putting-on-the-grits t1_iu386b7 wrote
A haze of some sort
Hour-Ad-3635 t1_iu426ig wrote
Blame SLAYER!
d_r0ck t1_iu0w80n wrote
420 is not green. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Name4Posting t1_iu0zzu2 wrote
That was the first color I tried too. But consolation prize; 666 is exactly the color it should be.
Aijaruc t1_iu1pij6 wrote
Nice
Damnaged t1_iu1iw7a wrote
Purple Haze, baby 😎
d_r0ck t1_iu1oqfr wrote
Literally just rolled up some purple haze 20mins ago, courtesy of a dispensary in Michigan :)
ramriot t1_iu13bva wrote
I want to do it the other way round & start off with brown & purple
Thanatomanic t1_iu15xpx wrote
This is not how it works. Most monochromatic colors fall way outside the color gamut of a typical display, and are therefore impossible to show accurately.
For example, see this image: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/SRGB_chromaticity_CIE1931.svg/440px-SRGB_chromaticity_CIE1931.svg.png Your phone can probably show you all colors within the triangle. But monochromatic light traces the outline of the weird shape.
Kangermu t1_iu1f9dq wrote
Oh yay, Any chance to pimp Captain D
StickiStickman t1_iu1wa2p wrote
That animation at 1:58 is absolutely amazing for understanding the shape.
Vreejack t1_iu2lldw wrote
One obvious flaw is that--for example--pure blue is 440nm, and you get that on the display by showing only bright blue pixels with no red or green. It is impossible to show a bluer color than that on your RGB display. Anything to the left of that on the chart would be "bluer", meaning it has even less green and red than 440 does, but you are already at the limit of the display, which demarcates the limit of you monitor's color gamut. Adding red in, as the chart does, makes no sense.
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TossAway35626 t1_iu3l1a9 wrote
Fun fact, its only due to a weird quirk of biology, an imperfection, that red and blue make purple. Were it not for this we would have a completely different color wheel.
The cone that picks up red also picks up just a bit of violet. So if something triggers both our red and blue rods, it must be purple. Our eyes cannot tell the difference between a single wavelength triggering red and blue and 2 wavelengths triggering red and blue, it sends the same purple signal to our brain either way.
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TossAway35626 t1_iu55mg9 wrote
I do not remember that comment, I should stop redditing before bed.
I feel describing cones by the colors they pick up makes it easier for people to understand. Not sure what was going through my head when I said rods though, I referred to them correctly earlier in the comment.
I would actually like to see monochromatic violet next to red and blue to see if there's an actual difference. Its not exactly possible to imitate this experiment with a screen.
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Any_1ove t1_iu1rgac wrote
I was wondering why it looked different. Thanks!
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Thanatomanic t1_iu3iy3x wrote
That all depends on the color space and transformation you use for your gamut mapping.
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Thanatomanic t1_iu3kain wrote
Even with sRGB as default and a well-calibrated display, the choice of gamut transformation determines the hue that you get on your display in comparison with the monochromatic light. It's really not clear cut.
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RoastedRhino t1_iu3viy6 wrote
Well, it's pretty clear that if my monitor has three leds, each one emitting light at different frequencies, the only thing that they can produce is the sum of lights at those frequencies, not another frequency.
And viceversa: there are colors that come from mixtures of frequencies and you cannot have with one frequency (purple).
Having said that, we only have three types of receptors, and it is possible to match the response of those as good as possible.
dalens t1_iu0xhi0 wrote
Uhm. It doesn't do the job. Also the 488 nm is too much cyan. The argon laser and the diode at that wavelength are more blue.
djp4ddy t1_iu0xq87 wrote
It also depends on type of your display. Usually they are not calibrated to be accurate, but to look good.
t3hjs t1_iu2reel wrote
Its not just calibration, a lot of monitor cannot physically reproduce even the metameric equivalent of the color. The gamut is just not there
CoherentPhoton OP t1_iu0xv4n wrote
Maybe a difference in your display? I just compared it to my 488nm laser and it looks quite close on mine.
spacecampreject t1_iu12znf wrote
Your experience is dependent on the color gamut of the display, and whether you ask for something that is in gamut or outside.
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NautilusPowerPlant t1_iu12ax5 wrote
It does as good of a job as it can. But you're precisely right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamut
mawktheone t1_iu1ur5p wrote
Looked ok to me when I turned off night mode on my screen. Very cyan before that
___Guitarmadillo___ t1_iu1kjwo wrote
people whose favorite color is magenta are furious.
CoherentPhoton OP t1_iu1lf2u wrote
You can get a pretty nice shade of magenta by combining 650nm and 473nm.
xoforoct t1_iu1fb16 wrote
Flow cytometry gang rise up
rubseb t1_iu185m4 wrote
This is useless in so many ways, but perhaps the most profound way that it is useless is that I already have goddamn eyes to tell me what color a wavelength of light is.
mawktheone t1_iu1v4tw wrote
So without looking if you're buying LEDs and they're listed as 452nm do you know what is?
Or if you're trying to match a product that already has lights, can you tell the shop what shade you need?
Diamondsfullofclubs t1_iu2xhdz wrote
>I already have goddamn eyes to tell me what color a wavelength of light is.
Your eyes don't tell you anything without a reference, which is what this is.
TwistingTrapeze t1_iu16w8s wrote
It's a cute idea... But ultimately I don't like it. First color I tried was 632 and it looked way way too orange. I know the color science and the gamut considerations and the dominant wavelength considerations, but it just doesn't seem to make a very good representation when it comes down to it. There's ways to perceptually change the gamut to make it look better, but this is one of those things where you just need a grating and a tungsten lamp
curly_spork t1_iu1oeqn wrote
I've been increasing the frequency by one and haven't noticed any changes!
koolman2 t1_iu17avh wrote
Before you do this, turn off any screen-adjustment settings like night mode or TrueTone. These will change how they look.
Calkaya t1_iu1hg21 wrote
809
CoherentPhoton OP t1_iu1hqot wrote
Octarine?
Calkaya t1_iu1ie1z wrote
Try 808 too :)
get_Ricked t1_iu1o6ea wrote
It's broken. 420 isn't green.
HawaiianOrganDonor t1_iu1uxec wrote
Don’t tell me what to do
RagnarRipper t1_iu1vt49 wrote
666 is red. Satan is real.
SurrealRareAvis t1_iu29mot wrote
Cool, thank you!
(Burnt Orange birthday girl, me …)
deepie1976 t1_iu1aups wrote
700
WillBigly t1_iu1jgpl wrote
What do you mean you don't know what 800nm light looks like?
Valmond t1_iu1kg1w wrote
Gotta caliber your screen first, and then check if it can actually show the color chosen.
Screens have come a long way but there is a reason why expensive screens cost more.
Poopandpotatoes t1_iu2dsfy wrote
510 is pure green
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babaganoooshh t1_iu2t7g5 wrote
What happens between 557 and 558?
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dxin t1_iu3651k wrote
The funny thing is, non of these colors could be accurately displayed on any digital device.
Vuhmahnt t1_iu3lstn wrote
What's your favorite color?
Me from now on: "510nm"
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SiggyThePiggy t1_iu462tc wrote
I challenge you to find the wavelength of brown
jamesbong0024 t1_iu4c0yx wrote
Very disappointed 420 was not green
mywordstickle t1_iu4ryyp wrote
Dxx x
sryahmw t1_iu63vae wrote
Very cool 💕
HawkinsT t1_iu8dsq4 wrote
Starts getting very cool around 379 nm.
Any_1ove t1_iu1mrv2 wrote
Okay the color should be super accurate right? I put in 589nm and it looked much yellower that I remembered (sodium spectrum, I had the impression they are orange.)
Theskyis256k t1_iu113ad wrote
666 is full on red.
Coincidence?!?!?!