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kerberus64 t1_iwdhbld wrote

This is a great tool! Very interesting to compare with here. If you’re making a list of other countries to do (and you fancy a challenge!), how about France?

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RUng1234 OP t1_iwdhp9c wrote

I think the France tax system is not progressiv (tax rate increases with the salary) right?

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kerberus64 t1_iwdi4vg wrote

I’m not 100% sure - this is why I’d be interested to find out!

And yes, I’ve lived and worked in France for 15 years, of which six have been in the civil service… I feel somewhat ashamed! :)

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Arthur_is_Nice_Name t1_iwd7n6p wrote

Germany has a church tax‽

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RUng1234 OP t1_iwd83ia wrote

Yepp. You need to denounce the church to stop paying that tax.

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Alphal66 t1_iwdanui wrote

Can you do one for Austria please? Shouldn't be that different anyways since we copy all your laws lol

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RUng1234 OP t1_iwdb86t wrote

Sure 😃. I am doing it as a sideproject and sometimes struggling to make time for it. But I really like the path of the journey 😉. I will put on my list.

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dasus t1_iwdobnv wrote

Finland had a massive denouncement of the church when someone just made an online tool that let you do it automatically.

Although I have to say that money really does get spent rather well here, as there's no massive Catholic churches that suck in money and the church we have does a lot of charity work and gives food.

If people could've just changed that to go to a secular institution, I think they would have. No-one really cared that much about the 1% church tax.

As I dislike the idea of making vulnerable people sit through indoctrination to get food, as some church food aid programs require you to sit through a service before you can get the aid.

It's like a Flat Earther going to get confirmation to their whacky world views from hungry hungry hobos by dangling food in front of them.

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QuickbuyingGf t1_iwdrem9 wrote

Sadly we need to go to a public office (which is apparently hard to get a date at) and pay like 30 bucks

Church isnt that indoctrinating here and of course has some positives (like creating a community, supporting local clubs) but idk if you should be forced enough into it as they honestly get enough money

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dasus t1_iwds27p wrote

Well the church here is suuuuuuuuuper mild in comparison to most other countries as Scandinavia is super secular, but I just oppose it ideologically.

I think a junkie I talked to said it's just a basic service, a couple of hymns and a sermon by a Finnish Evangelical Lutheran pastor, so pretty airy-fairy "we should aim to do good" and none of that "sin and you'll go to hell" shit. Still, the idea bothers me slightly, even if the practice doesn't.

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Tugendwaechter t1_iwgs0fj wrote

In Germany the churches get extra money from the state for their charitable work and social services.

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Homebrewandsteak t1_iweda0m wrote

I had no idea taxes were so high in Germany. Is there a stepped system like in the US?

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RUng1234 OP t1_iwfg7r0 wrote

It is a progressive system: with the salary increase the tax rate also increases.

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