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vartha t1_j281taj wrote

Reply to comment by unsiker in So aliens come to earth and they're Sooo nice ... by ThomasKatt

Weren't there even three hole points?

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Kylynara t1_j296b8i wrote

Three nails. But one went through both feet, so 4 holes (eight of you count entry and exit separately) and one more where they stabbed him in the side to speed up the process.

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LonelyDinner t1_j298qpt wrote

Not to speed up. To check if he was alive or not. To speed up the process, they would break your legs so you can't stand up and you asphyxiate faster. But they didn't break his legs because when they stabbed him in the side with a spear, they saw he was already dead.

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1TenDesigns t1_j29t3rv wrote

How does hanging from your hands cause you to asphyxiate?

Honest question btw. I've done lots of chin ups etc, don't recall breathing being difficult?

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Gil-Gandel t1_j29w7f8 wrote

Sure, but you could stop when you were tired. Now figure that you can't let go, you can't grip with your hands, your arm muscles aren't taking weight in any kind of helpful manner, but you're being forced to stay in that pose in a dead hang all day (and all tomorrow if that's what it takes).

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vartha t1_j2bqtzt wrote

I wonder if people in that situation would, if not offered any other choice, actually wish they had their legs broken.

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Gil-Gandel t1_j2d2qh3 wrote

It wouldn't be surprising. Knowing you're not coming down off that thing alive, I guess you'd reach the just-get-this-over-with point after a while.

On this occasion I don't know that it was with any particular merciful intention -- just to get the execution over with before sundown, as there was a Jewish holy day coming up (and the calendar changes at sunset, not midnight).

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vartha t1_j2dai1e wrote

That sounds like a plausible allegation. However, I was told, without being able to quote any sources, that breaking the victim's legs was in fact considered an act of mercy and relatives were happy to pay for that service.

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vartha t1_j2dbapv wrote

ChatGPT more or less confirms you.

It is not clear where the idea that the relatives of someone who was crucified would pay for their legs to be broken as an act of mercy comes from. Crucifixion was a form of execution that was used in ancient Rome and other cultures for punishment and as a deterrent. It involved affixing the condemned person to a wooden cross or stake using nails or ropes and leaving them to die. There is no historical record of the relatives of crucified individuals paying for their legs to be broken as a mercy.

Leg breaking was not a standard practice in the execution of crucified individuals. However, it is possible that in some cases, the executioners may have broken the legs of those who were being crucified in order to hasten their deaths. This was done by striking the legs with a blunt object, such as a club, which would cause the person to suffocate more quickly. This practice is mentioned in the New Testament of the Bible, in the account of the Crucifixion of Jesus.

It is important to note that crucified individuals would often suffer a great deal of pain and suffering before they died. The process of being crucified could take several days, and those who were crucified were often left exposed to the elements and vulnerable to attack by animals and insects. It was a brutal and inhumane form of punishment, and there is no evidence to suggest that the relatives of those who were crucified would pay for their legs to be broken as an act of mercy.

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