slarti54 t1_iuj1pmx wrote on October 31, 2022 at 6:25 PM

Exactly / roughly / likely - which is it?

_PaulM t1_iuj20jo wrote on October 31, 2022 at 6:27 PM

I'm using exactly/roughly interchangeably because of the level of error in manufacturing the barbell. The clips will get you to the 45lbs plus or minus the weight error in trying to get exactly 45lbs.

If you lift with the clips, you're likely much, much closer to the intended 45lbs.

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For what it's worth, this level of detail in lifting is only really huge in the top, elite levels of training and competition. But still, it matters.

jp11_ t1_iuji0mc wrote on October 31, 2022 at 8:14 PM

But you said the bar is plus or minus a few ounces so what if u got one over weight? The clips are just extra weight now. Seems like what you wrote doesnt make much sense to me

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yoosernamesarehard t1_iujf596 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 7:55 PM

Clips should be used for two circumstances: A brand new weightlifter and a power lifter whose bar bends from the amount of weight they’re lifting which causes the plates to slide down and off.

Any other situation, they do more harm than good. They contribute to muscle imbalances because normally the weights would slide off on the weaker side. Once you notice this happening, you readjust accordingly. With clips on, you have no idea which side is lifting more and you start forming crazy imbalances. I’ve never seen someone drop weight plates from it being not clipped, but I’ve definitely seen people almost get hurt doing several exercises because they couldn’t shift the weight off the bar. Anecdotal, but it’s been 10 years of lifting through high school gyms, city gyms, and 3 different gyms at a very large state college. That’s quite a sample size I’d say.

If you don’t believe me, go take a bar and clip the weights to it. Let’s choose barbell lunges for the example. Then consciously allow the bar to dip on one side of your shoulders. See how you’re still able to perform the lift without the weights falling off? Wow! Must be doing the exercise correctly then. Except you aren’t.

_PaulM t1_iujmeyp wrote on October 31, 2022 at 8:44 PM

I'm sorry.

I read your entire argument. And, just no. Imbalances are obvious when the client's weaker side fails to compensate correctly for the weight and is quite obvious.

If you have a disbalance, have someone check you out at the gym. You do not need to know which side is more disbalanced by compromising your equipment in the process that's a ridiculous argument.

Safety above all, respect the weights, take it seriously. The difference between an awesome physique and a ridiculous physique is attention to detail and planning forward with your training to avoid any potential injuries at all costs.

LPT: Olympic Barbells are rated at exactly 20kg plus or minus a few ounces. The Olympic clips are what add the necessary weight to reach exactly 45lbs so if you're looking to set a personal best, make sure the clips are on to record the correct amount of weight.

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