Blue_winged_yoshi t1_j2dqngc wrote on December 31, 2022 at 2:33 PM

Reply to comment by OKR123 in LPT: For the ladies. If your BF/Husband is possessive and isolates you from your family and friends, it means he knows you can find better. It's time to GTFO of the relationship. by Clazzo524

A partner who desires spending some time together is just normal and clearly not what this is about, a partner who pushes someone to open eyes to toxic influences can be great, but this post is about partner induced isolation - This is a scarily common phenomenon that people need to keep their eyes open to.

Suggesting communication if you feel like you are being isolated misses the point that people who isolate partners will gaslight if put on the spot about it before continuing to further isolate. Furthermore, golden rule of couples counselling is do not participate in it if in an abusive or coercive relationship. A manipulative partner will agree to couples therapy and run rings round their victim.

Really this comment appears well intentioned but is much more misguided than it might appear to some folks. If a new partner is isolating anyone from friends and family then leave whilst you still have friends and family to support you because once you’re estranged leaving is 10000000 x more difficult and you don’t know what comes next.

OKR123 t1_j2e8oeh wrote on December 31, 2022 at 4:45 PM

Nope. Leaving is actually always easy. You also NEVER know what comes next. Even staying and working with a flawed partner, who may not even realise how controlling their behaviour is, is a tougher choice, and not an always wrong choice. You seem strongly invested in narratives of irredeemable extreme narcissistic personality disorders, which are very rare, and even as a disorder there are people on the milder ends of the spectrum who can be helped not to be so controlling and steered away from manipulative behaviours. Sacrificing absolutely everyone's perfectly navigable relationships just because there are some people some people out there that are psychopaths is too severe a point of view to count as an LPT.