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louekk t1_j1bhg13 wrote

that is very ambigous, how do you define predictable driving? It's quite a subjective metric

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phwe9774 t1_j1bj5ju wrote

It's not at all ambiguous. Drive a consistent speed and avoid hard acceleration and braking whenever possible. On a multi lane road, stay in one lane as much as you can. In short, don't drive like a jackass

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louekk t1_j1bjewo wrote

Yeah, sounds easy when you put it like that. Not everyone has the same level of hand-eye coordination, reflexes, executive functioning etc. Also what one may deem predictable may not be what is predictable to the other, people solve problems in alternate ways, as it has always been the case for humans. What you're basically saying is be a good driver, well some people struggle with exactly that

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phwe9774 t1_j1bkfw1 wrote

Ok, now you're arguing for the sake of arguing. If you can't figure out what OP and I are saying, I can't help you

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pm-me-racecars t1_j1bl7gk wrote

What they're saying is "A good driver does this specifically."

Yes, some people are going to be slower to learn how to stay in the lines and such, but if someone can't do things like "Don't make sudden movements," or "Give warning before you change lanes," maybe they shouldn't be driving.

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louekk t1_j1bjnpk wrote

Again, you are warping the main message of the post. It said 'be predictable'. Not everyone has the exact same cognitive processing as you, especially under pressure

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louekk t1_j1bji4g wrote

Also when you say drive safely, what do you consider safely? Some people speed on the roads because they don't feel it is unsafe, they're 'good drivers' after all

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Splyce123 t1_j1bjeuq wrote

Pretty much the opposite of ambiguous. Just drive sensibly, within the rules, not erratically.

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louekk t1_j1bjs8w wrote

That's the issue tho, when you say 'be predictable', and then you go on to add another meaning to the post in a separate comment, the messaging gets warped

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ficskala t1_j1bk07l wrote

>how do you define predictable driving?

Using turning signals at appropriate times, avoiding changing lanes for no reason, using your brake when engine breaking just enough so your brake lights turn on, so the person behind you knows you're slowing down, using the overtaking lane for overtaking, not the driving lane, etc.

But i'd say turning signals are one of the more important parts, i see too many people turn them on when they're already making the turn, like, what's the point in that, literally none, you're already making the turn, it's obvious you're turning right now, turning signals are meant to notify everyone what you're about to do, not what you've already done

>It's quite a subjective metric

I mean not really, just do stuff that lets others know what you're about to do and what you're doing, and that's driving predictably

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louekk t1_j1bk9bk wrote

Yes, but that was not what the post originally said. Also, good luck explaining 'predictably' to every single individual, where language is so open to interpretation. What you might do in a situation might not be what someone else would. That is all I am arguing. Maybe better phrasing for this post would be drive safely, according to the law? But then that's kind of obvious, so why doesn't everyone just do it?

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ficskala t1_j1bm0ca wrote

>Yes, but that was not what the post originally said

It literally says "preditable driving"

>good luck explaining 'predictably' to every single individual

They were thought about it in driving school, the wors themselves are there just to remind them of it

>language is so open to interpretation

You're getting philosophicall here, thr point of the post is that they use exact same terminology used in driving schools so people remember it as they were thought when they drove the first time

>What you might do in a situation might not be what someone else would.

Of course not, and i don't expect it, i just let people know what i'm doing so they know what i'm about to do, so they expect it

>Maybe better phrasing for this post would be drive safely, according to the law?

It's not the same thing though, being safe doesn't mean you're predictable, predictability does make you safer, also, this post uses the standard driving school language everyone goes through when learning how to drive, and i've heard the exact same wording in 6 languages, always using whatever word it is for predictable, this is the best phrasing for what the post is trying to say becsuse everyone is familiar with the term, and knows exactly what it means, those who don't, either didn't go to driving school, or have been driving for 20 years already anyways so it wouldn't matter what you told them, they're still gonna keep driving as they've been driving already

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louekk t1_j1bm88c wrote

I am sorry, I no longer care for this discussion as it is futile. I feel like you read my words but interpret them your way. Useless post, that's all

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ficskala t1_j1bmke6 wrote

>I feel like you read my words but interpret them your way.

You're saying the post uses wrong wording, i'm saying it uses correct wording, and give a reason why

>Useless post, that's all

Yeah, i can agree with this since it's literally thebfirst thing you're thought in a driving school anyways, redundant at best

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louekk t1_j1bmtes wrote

yeah, you can argue all you want but we both know that language can be quite a subjective experience, everyone expresses themselves differently, have a nice night/day

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ficskala t1_j1bnh9a wrote

>we both know that language can be quite a subjective experience,

Yeah, but not when you're thought what some phrases mean exactly, what is the case here

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louekk t1_j1bnpuj wrote

no, look, some people interpret the world differently, they have different risk assessments, reaction times and other factors which all come into play, potentially affecting their JUDGEMENT or the way they play out scenarios in their head. E.g. person A might see doing a specific thing safer as that's what feels right in this scenario, but person B might feel that might not have been the best thing to do, not to mention previous experiences which taught them to do better

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louekk t1_j1bo1o4 wrote

so exhibit B may have already been in this situation before, and hence their 'prediction' would be more in line with what may be perceived as correct, on the other hand person A may have never experienced anything like this, potentially affecting the way they approach thw problem. That's just one example of predictability, but you can see how the same definition can apply to various varying concepts.

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ficskala t1_j1bocbz wrote

Of course, but predictable driving is a defined term, ask any driving instructor, or educator, they will all be able to list you what is considered to be predictable driving

>risk assessments, reaction times and other factors

None of this changes the fact that when you turn on your right turning signal, people are gonna assume you're gonna be steering to the right, or when your brake lights turn on, it means your car is slowing down

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louekk t1_j1bogjy wrote

Okay, I see. I honestly don't drive so I wasn't aware that is an actual term.

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ficskala t1_j1bp7cs wrote

Fair enough, but it sounded like you were claiming that it's not a term, not that you didn't know of it, or were ignorant of it

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louekk t1_j1bpas7 wrote

My bad, I probably interpreted your wording another way. Thanks

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louekk t1_j1bok8o wrote

Also from UK so might have different naming, potentially exactly for the reason that it is easy to confuse

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all_the_gravy t1_j1boug8 wrote

Omg just admit your a bad driver! If you need this much clarification on what it means to be predictable while driving you ain't.

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louekk t1_j1bp7qt wrote

Stop projecting. This ain't about me. Also I don't drive my guy

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yParticle t1_j1bjjjz wrote

Be consistent in things like your following distance. Better to keep a decent gap in front so someone else can merge without slowing traffic behind them. Follow the pace of traffic, and follow the rules. Don't cede your right of way unless there's literally only one other person on the road. Signal sudden slowdowns in traffic ahead by tapping your brakes multiple times in succession even if you don't need to use them. Stay out of the right lane if you're the first to an intersection so it's clear for someone to turn.

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