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MonstarGaming t1_jakqs01 wrote

>I have no idea how OpenAI can make money on this.

Personally, I don't think they can. What is the main use case for chat bots? How many people are going to pay $20/month to talk to a chatbot? I mean, chatbots aren't exactly new... anybody who wanted to chat with one before ChatGPT could have and yet there wasn't an industry for it. Couple that with it not being possible to know whether its answers are fact or fiction and I just don't see the major value proposition.

I'm not overly concerned one way or another, I just don't think the business case is very strong.

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Smallpaul t1_jam83rb wrote

I guess you haven’t visited any B2C websites in the last 5 years.

But also: there is a world model behind the chatbot which can translate between human languages, between computer languages, can compose marketing copy, summarise text...

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MonstarGaming t1_jap3jzc wrote

>I guess you haven’t visited any B2C websites in the last 5 years.

I have and that is exactly my point. The main use case is B2C websites, NOT individuals, and there are already very mature products in that space. OpenAI needs to develop a lot of bells, whistles, and integration points with existing technologies (salesforce, service now, etc.) before they can be competitive in that market.

>can translate between human languages

Very valuable, but Google and Microsoft both offer this for free.

>between computer languages

This is niche, but it does seem like an untapped, albeit small, market.

>can compose marketing

Also niche. That being said, would it save time? Marketing materials are highly curated.

>summarise text...

Is this a problem a regular person would pay to have fixed? The maximum input size is 2048 tokens / ~1,500 words / three pages. Assuming an average person pastes in the maximum input, they're summarizing material that would take them 6 minutes to read (Google is saying the average person reads 250 words per minutes). Mind you it isn't saving 6 minutes, they still need to read all of the content ChatGPT produces. Wouldn't the average person just skim the document if they wanted to save time?

To your point, it is clearly a capable technology, but that wasn't my argument. There have been troves of capable technologies that were ultimately unprofitable. While I believe it can be successful in the B2C market, I don't think the value proposition is nearly as strong for individuals.

Anyhow, only time will tell.

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MonstarGaming t1_japjnn4 wrote

Nice, nothing demonstrates the Dunning-Kruger effect quite like a string of insults.

For whatever its worth, that argument is exceedingly weak. I'll let you brainstorm on why that might be. I don't have interest in debating with someone who so obviously lacks tact.

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