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lambertb t1_jdvngk3 wrote

Reply to comment by WokeAssBaller in [D] GPT4 and coding problems by enryu42

https://github.blog/2022-09-07-research-quantifying-github-copilots-impact-on-developer-productivity-and-happiness/

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WokeAssBaller t1_jdvodfn wrote

Yeah I don’t buy a survey, could be heavily biased

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lambertb t1_je02zgn wrote

Have you used the tools yourself? I have, and a 40% increase in productivity is totally plausible, and often an underestimate considering I can now do things I would not have even tried previously. I encourage you to try them, with healthy skepticism and an open mind.

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WokeAssBaller t1_je04bbu wrote

I’m and MLE and I’ve used it a bunch, it’s hardly ever actually useful. It gets close but it’s not there and it’s faster to google almost every time.

It will be useful in probably a year or two, but it needs to understand how to run its own experiments. Anyone who actually thinks this is useful right now is just buying hype

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lambertb t1_je29sc5 wrote

Isn’t it possible that your experience is not representative? Are you using ChatGPT or GitHub copilot?

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WokeAssBaller t1_je6fveg wrote

I doubt it, I do pretty standard engineering, whats more likely is there is selection bias in the survey and people are overestimating it due to hype.

I'd love to see an actual double blind study.

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lambertb t1_je6jjps wrote

There can’t be a double blind study because the people using the copilot will know they’re using it.

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WokeAssBaller t1_je783go wrote

Fair enough then give them problems to solve and measure their output. This feels like “90% of dentists claim crest improves your dental health”

I’ll take an independent study into consideration but today I find it more of a novelty

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lambertb t1_je802eu wrote

I agree the survey study is nothing close to being definitive. And it does smack it marketing. Still, my own experience suggests that these tools will be transformative. At the same time, I’ve gotten lost down an AI rabbit hole where it would have been more efficient for me to just do it myself. On balance though, my assessment is that these are already very helpful tools, and they’ll only get better.

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WokeAssBaller t1_je80fbg wrote

They will absolutely reshape the world in the next 5 years, all I'm saying is in its current state I haven't found it helpful. I'm sure in the next couple of years it's the main thing I will use

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