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Laafheid t1_j0yaqrx wrote

It might be way out there, but the who situation makes me think of a piece by philosopher Slavoj Zizek. The piece is about a link between belief in existence of God, or some other transcendent Big Idea, and limitations.

If one replaces the Big Idea, with the concept that "reality is and should be reality", then it stands to reason that either there will be more explicit censorship and/or that more importance will be placed on reputation/status/interpersonal relationships, and beside these two other forms of verifyability.

On the flipside, if one looks at what the majority of people actually create with it, you get things which are mostly (")productive(").

In a sense it is similar to the invention of the printing press: with it people could relatively rapidly publish anything, but in the end reputation of good publishers is what covers the majority of the market, and although there are still people who self-publish how far their reach is depends on credentials (in a broad sense of reputation, status, relationships & accomplishments).

what I am more worried about than fake X, is the opposite consequence. Because it becomes easier to create fake X, it should also become more "reasonable" to claim X is actually fake. Since deepfake detection is practically an arms race with no end in sight a different solution than AI is needed for this and consequences depend a lot on what that looks like.

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MAVAAMUSICMACHINE t1_j0yy5rb wrote

What sort of solution could help in this case?

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Laafheid t1_j0zi3ca wrote

I wouldn't be as worried if I had solutions for this, that's kind of the issue.

it seems difficult to me since regardless of whether the thing is fake or real the truth-finding used to depends on records being available, but precisely those become easier to manufacture, so even if alibi material is presented it's not clear whether that is real either. the only solution that would sort of solve this, seems to me to be surveillance by default, yet that brings with it a slew of other problems.

Do you have ideas?

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MAVAAMUSICMACHINE t1_j117fbi wrote

You raise some really good points. I really don’t know too much about this area, but one idea is to use some sort of blockchain technology at point of capture to verify the integrity of images/videos.

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Laafheid t1_j1313vz wrote

it's an option and I'm aware of a company working with this, yet I'm not knowledgeable enough about it to know whether it is any good at actually combating this issue.

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