madnessandmachines t1_j1zkd85 wrote
Reply to comment by comefromspace in [D] DeepMind has at least half a dozen prototypes for abstract/symbolic reasoning. What are their approaches? by valdanylchuk
Just want to reiterate: if you think language is just syntax, I'd recommend listening to some linguistics lectures or reading a book or two on the subject (i.e.: books on language, not on syntax or grammar). John McWhorter has some very approachable and eye-opening Audible courses that might change your perspective.
comefromspace t1_j1zm1fv wrote
I am aware of some of the philosophy of language, but i prefer to look at the neuroscientific findings instead. Language is a human construct that doesn't really exist in nature - communication does, which in humans is exchange of mental states between brains. The structure of language follows from abstracting the physical world into compact communicable units, and syntax is a very important byproduct of this process. I am more interested to see how hierarchical structure of language arises in these computational models like LLMs, which are open to empirical investigation. Most folk linguistic theories are high conjecture that has only circumstancial evidence.
madnessandmachines t1_j1zok1s wrote
Linguistics is a field of study and analysis, not philosophy. And I am specifically talking about exploring the anthropological and ethnographical study of language which is where you might lose many of your assumptions. The way different languages work, how they change over time, is relevant to anyone working in NLP.
I would argue the number one fallacy of modern LLM design is people disregarding all we have come to know about language in favor of just hoping something interesting will emerge when we throw billions of parameters at it.
madnessandmachines t1_j1zousp wrote
Also “the structure of language follows from abstracting the world into compact communicable units” is itself a “folk theory” of languages. Many supposedly neuroscientific theories of language are little more than conjecture based on assumptions.
comefromspace t1_j23hsyi wrote
It is a conjecture that can be tested however, starting with artificial networks. I don't think it's folk theory because it s not mainstream at all
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