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notyourregularnerd OP t1_j2qvpba wrote

Reply to comment by ButchOfBlaviken in [D] life advice to relatively late bloomer ML theory researcher. by notyourregularnerd

Masters in top ranked schools in Germany (my personal experience from TU Munich a top German school) in a stem course is very rigorous, students have to take multiple independent research projects to graduate. I'm taking 5 semesters to graduate in CS. Average time to graduate in my program is 6 semesters. However the minimum time you can graduate in is 4 semester (a lot of times very challenging and a rushed way to compete it).

So you're right when you said that MS in Germany takes 3 years to get done with in reality. Although the official time to do it is 2 years.

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ButchOfBlaviken t1_j2r0ldh wrote

So I think you've answered your own question. Starting a PhD at 27 in Germany is quite normal. If you're comparing yourself against UK/US graduates, all I can say is that people who make the hiring decisions definitely know and appreciate the extra experience that brings.

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mtocrat t1_j2rxj5k wrote

Fwiw, Germany has a portion of people who stay enrolled forever because it doesn't cost anything and they may have a somewhat decent job on the side that funds them. That's not the kind of person who pursues a PhD, so I wouldn't put too much stock in averages here.

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notyourregularnerd OP t1_j2s2sdg wrote

Well the department here at TUM has hard deadline of graduation in 7 semesters. And both mean and median graduation time is 6 semesters. I agree that students take on part time jobs as working students in big firms that fund them, but they don't exceed 20 hours. My analysis is that there is lot of uncertain components that you have to navigate to get your degree (independent research credits, thesis), where what constitutes as sufficient work is subjective. If it were only coursework I would also look carefully at a student who took longer time to graduate :)

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